My POV is that "god" and the "universe(s)" is just one big machine that
we're all a part of. And we're just along for the ride and button
pressed to start the ride in this amusement park was pressed "billyuns
and billyuns" of years ago. Sorry you can't change the route the ride
takes even if you think you have.
On 10/18/2014 02:24 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
I can say "aye," because I have a definition for the word, "god," with
which my intellect can bat aside most of the usual anti-God debate points.
Awareness is God.
Examine that statement. (Almost anyone's definition of "awareness"
will do....except that almost no one can define "awareness." Heh.
And, no, I'm not asking for "consciousness" to be defined.)
What? You're still here? That wasn't enough "hard fact" for your
inner scientist? You need to do some experiments on "awareness,"
before you'll agree with me? Sorry, it can't be done. Awareness is
not material, physical, or manifest in any manner, but, hoo boy, yep,
apes-and-lower nervous systems manufacture a consciousness that
insists it is.
Proceed to computations....I mean, go figure.
Now, if you've got a complaint about any particular religion, have at
it, I'd probably agree with ya.
The history of religious institutions' insane embrace of slaughter
easily triggers such negativity in my nervous system that I cannot
toss a first stone at anyone who's thrown God out with the "Religions'
bathwaters." I understand. Easy thing to do. Done it myself at
several points in my ongoing maturation process.
But not anymore.
If you want to bitch about "faith" being illogical, I'm listening, but
most examples of "faith" are relatively benign. So, to beat up folks
who have never had two fact-based thoughts in a row is like using an
AK47 to obtain a fish.....in a barrel. Where's the sport in this?
A parrot can say, "There is no such thing as God." Ya know?
And most humans who say it, say it with about the same amount of
resonance. Just something to say. Like that.
To KNOW that there is no God.....there's the rub. Certainty is the
ego's addiction, and that's what bothers atheists -- they can't nail
it down. They can't prove it in words or numbers. They can shut up the
believers with logic because logic (despite the calculus) doesn't
apply to infinity -- ask any physicist who comes across a sleeping
eight in a formula.
An atheist is religiously asserting a strongly held BELIEF, instead of
being syllogistically certain. Big damned difference. Big.
And an agnostic is a person who has not yet achieved clarity about the
unknowable, undefinable, never-not-there, sentient without
consciousness, absolute -- awareness.
If you're not enlightened, you're an agnostic.
And if so, you're fucked. Cuz, you'll always be clinging to
consciousness like an addict to the needle. Always waiting for the
next thought to define
you-as-you-are-now-even-though-you-won't-be-it-anon. BAH, talk about
tawdry relationships -- constantly iterating fealty to the bloody
percolations of two pounds of meat. It's downright sodomy.
And to those who believe in God without awareness-clarity and say,
"But but but, Edg, I have soooooo many beautiful loving worshiping
thoughts about the gloriousness of creation. All around I see proof
of God's existence." -- I reply, "Piss off, addict." Ain't no
cookery trick worth a lick in the divine candy store.
Give me silence without all the heavy breathing. That'll do.