Re:Deeksha dear rick, I saw my name mentioned in one of the recent posts regarding deeksha. I just got back on fflife tonite so here is my reply which is followed by a mailing i sent out here in texas. I know things sometimes get kind of rough on fflife so i am not going t o argue or get into intellectual and philosophical discussions about it.
i do not take Bhagavan as my guru and I do not intend to defend him or his stated goals of bringing enlightenment to the masses. I have only my experiences to go on and the experiences of others with whom i have discussed this.This is about experiences, not talking about experiences. I was not looking for another path. It is not a technique, or a sadhana, or a religion. I have not been asked to recruit anyone or send them any money, even though I charge for giving deeksha. I called the monk in charge of organizing the US for Bhagavan and told her about the distraught Indian fellows post. I wanted to know what the deal was.it seems he conveniently failed to mention that they allow the Indians to take the 21 day process for free if they recruit 30 people. So perhaps his "pressure" was self induced. Whatever... I heard Ammachi say recently"dont expect to be praised for your good works." I imagine the fellow has an axe to grind and if his complaint is legitimate so be it. It is a young organization so there will be a learning curve. (Ithink we all have experienced the learning curve). I have only been getting deeksha since July but I now understand why people are so excited about it. Meditation has been my favorite sadhana but i admit i was like a rock. Meditation had often been very good but that was about it. After deeksha i had fantastic bliss along with waking state witnessing that was unmistakable. It was not like, "Am i witnessing or just thinking about witnessing." It was strong and intense. Now there is frequent causeless joy. i can appreciate what Bhagavan is doing now that i saw the immensity of the structures and campuses that he has built and is building. There are 4 campuses in Golden City. Our accomodations had A/C, good drinking water on all the floors and were clean and beds made for us every day. it was designed with westerners in mind. Three other tm teachers were on my course. Even Purusha was represented. JAcque, the former national leader of Holland, is giving deeksha in Lelystad, the TM siddha village outside of amsterdam. He, of course told MMY what his experience was wit h deeksha, and MMy did not disapprove of his intentions. Jacque felt he should resign as national leader because of a conflict of interest perhaps. He was not asked to step down. I believe this month he is bringing a group of TM teachers to Golden City, near Chennai to be trained in deeksha. Sri Sri ravi Shankar, Chalanda Ma, the healer Ron Roth have all been wit hBhagavan recently and now give deeksha. I dont know how well trained Chalanda Ma's people are since I believe (i could be mistaken) she trained them herself. If you want to experience deeksha i would go with nathan zanick. Since most of the time we were in silence i did not get to discuss very much wit hothers altho a danish fellow told me the story of his healing of his torn meniscus in the middle of the nite the first nite he was there. I had my own healing miracle done by the doctor on the premises. My life is blissful every day. One thing troubled me. I realized that my body was not my body and tha t my thoughts were not my thoughts.Then the dasa told us we were just a concept, that we didnt really exist. i told my roommate i was pissed. first i am not my body, then i am not my thoughts and then i dont even exist. I paid thousands of dollars for this ? he responded,"What are you worrying about? It wasnt your money." here is the email i sent out t ofriends in texas. its my story and i am sticking to it.!!! Dear friends, As some of you may know I have recently moved back to my house in Austin. I am glad to be home. I got back sept.16 and promptly left for India on sept. 30. Now I am here to stay. I will tell you my story briefly because it is an exciting one for me and the many thousands of others. For a variety of reasons I had decided in July of 2005 to leave the Devi Mandir where I had been with my guru Shree Maa for 6 years. I had planned to return to austin by oct. 1. In late july a TM friend and a member of the Devi Mandir family, Steven Shimer, said to me at his house in Fairfield, California, "Steve, I have made more spiritual progress in the last 3 weeks than I have made in the last 10 years." I asked what he was doing and he and Kathy Unger, his wife told me they were going to Berkeley each week for deeksha. Of course I asked what was deeksha. He explained to me that some people had been to India and been trained by two saints, Bhagavan and Amma, to transmit the Divine energy into peoples crown chakra and that they would begin a rapid process of enlightenment or awakening. I trusted Steve and Kathy completely and i went. Each of the first 3 times I went I found it pleasant but nothing to get excited about. Some people loved it right from the start. I went a 4th time and I thought my socks would get blown right off my feet. The bliss was intense and I could barely walk or drive. WOW!!!! This was what they were talking about. I decided to stay in the Bay area and really check it out. Other friends checked it out also. Fantastic was the final decision. I have had the spiritual experiences I had been reading about for decades. And I continue to have some of them daily and they continue to deepen. I had given up on enlightenment. I knew many spiritual people from many different disciplines. The one thing they had in common was they talked about enlightenment. If anybody had it, well...... it certainly was not for the masses. Even those who did hard sadhana had very little to show for it. Bhagavan and Amma are avatars whose specialty is enlightenment. They have trained me to pass on this Divine energy through deeksha. There is no teaching, no techniques to do, nothing to read. Just come and receive deeksha with an attitude of gratitude. Bhagavan calls himself a technician. Just as you sit in the chair and open your mouth for the dentist, so you sit in the chair and let the person place the Golden energy into your head. Thats it. If you are so moved, come to my house in Radiance and receive deeksha: Tuesday, Nov 15 7:30 pm- 9:30 pm 1 Concord Circle Austin, Texas 78737 suggested donation- $25 - $35 __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! 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