On 10/22/2014 5:36 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
*From:* salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
*From:* "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical
wiring and growth of the brain, causes not necessarily known. Mental
illness is not considered a contagious disease. So contrary to the
title Barry gave to this thread, the hook if you will, belief in god
is not a mental illness.
Many people disagree with this. These sociologists, psychologists, and
religious historians believe that history shows us that not *only* is
religion indistinguishable from mental illness (think the actions that
the Inquisition considered "holy"), it is very, very much communcable
(the Inquisition lasted for *800 years*, fucking up Western society in
ways that are still felt today).
/Non sequitur. Barry sounds very afraid of dialoging about religion or
spiritual paths. He's been on the inside of two religious groups, but he
doesn't seem to want to talk about it. He won't even tell us about the
secret tantra techniques or the secret mantras. Go figure.
Apparently he is a TB: "True Believers tend to believe in absolutist
terms (either l00% true or 100% false) and they can't tolerate
situations in which://
// a. the truth is unknown//
// b. the truth is midway between extremes//
// c. simply unknowable//
// d. variants such as true some of the time, but at other times not
true, or true for some people but not others."/
Plus, look at how one person defined their religion just today: "But
let's not talk about bawee, I have my hands full just smacking him
into line day after day - it is an exhausting pursuit but someone has
to do it so I sacrifice myself on the wheel of necessity. There will
be some reward in heaven for my efforts, I am sure."
This person clearly feels not only that they are going to be rewarded
with heaven for stalking the person they've chosen to stalk, but it is
their "duty" to stalk him, to "smack him into line day after day," as
if 1) she was entitled to, or 2) that ever happened.
See what I mean about religion being a form of mental illness? Here
you have a person who chooses to excuse her stalking behavior and
obsession on one particular person she hates by claiming it's her
religious duty to act like this. This religious fanatic not only
admits to being a stalker, she *celebrates* it and hopes to end up in
heaven *for* being a stalker. I'd say that was pretty mentally ill,
wouldn't you? :-) :-) :-)
It's seriously weird behaviour, channelling Judy perhaps?
I wonder who the intended audience is? Maybe there's an imaginary one
that applauds every such post. That would be a sign of poor mental health!
Well, before I started moving Ann's messages to the Deranged Stalkers
From Hell folder, I seem to remember her being the person who claimed
to know for sure that nothing bad had happened to Judy. That would
indicate that they were in communication, right? So my bet is that
Ann's "audience" is in fact the person who has been directing her
stalking efforts from behind the scenes.
But even if this isn't the case, I would suggest
that...uh...overestimating one's "audience" IS, in fact, a sign of
mental illness. For example, several times now over the years I have
asked Jim Flanegin to settle once and for all the issue of whether
anyone actually *believes* his claims to be enlightened by simply
ASKING. All it would take is for him to post to FFL, asking those who
*do* believe he's enlightened to reply and say so. He has steadfastly
refused to do this, all while insinuating that he has "friends" here,
as if the fact that they pat him on the back when he stalks the people
he was told to stalk means that they actually believe his claim to be
enlightened. Heck, even *Nabby* has never said he thinks Jim is
enlightened. Nabby probably thinks David Lynch and the occasional
scarecrow next to a crop circle are enlightened, but he doesn't think
Jim is. Says a lot, right? :-)
The clear "sign of poor mental health" IMO is the fact that these
people -- at this point, primarily Ann, Jim, Richard, and Steve --
seem to feel that they have not only the right but a "duty" to harass
and stalk those on this forum they don't like. I suggest that what
they're really trying to do is SILENCE these people they stalk,
because *they* don't like what they say. The deranged stalkers
*pretend* that they're doing this stalking "for the good of the
forum," or "to protect those who might be taken in or misled by what
these liars might say," but of course we all know that the members of
the original Inquisition said exactly the same thing about why *they*
were deranged stalkers.
I would suggest that the bottom line about Ann, Jim, Richard, and
Steve's sanity is whether anyone is actually paying any attention to
what they write. I don't read their posts, so they're not talking to
me. even though they often pretend to be. Almost no one else bothers
to reply to their stalker posts, so it would seem that they aren't
really talking to these people they're claiming to be "protecting,"
either. Thus it seems clear that they are either talking exclusively
to each other (a strong psychopathic trait among similarly-insane
inmates in asylums) or to themselves (an even more psychopathic trait).
Wouldn't it be much more sane just to IGNORE the writings -- and the
writers -- they don't like? Feeling the need to "get" the writers or
"smack" them in several posts a day...for months, or even
years...seems almost *by definition* insane to me. The lurking
reporters have confirmed that they see Ann, Jim, Richard, and Steve
this way, as cult apologists stalking critics of their cult. Why can't
the stalkers themselves see it?