On 10/24/2014 4:49 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Please untwist the panties, boys.

/Barry got one of his buttons pushed and his panties got in a big twist. Run to Rick, run to Rick!/

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :

I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I think we all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to reality, but this is so over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick.

I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling Michael a terrorist.

This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really want "Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" senility that TMers display when someone does *nothing more* than criticize the organization they identify with?

*From:* "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 5:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

D: Om No, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature of your extreme hate

M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...

D: and behavior to be like Hamas

M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually killing people. Kinda different don't you think?

D: and said I could empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with ISIS and that level of such threats for instance. I can 'understand' his position. Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves for their life against terrorism and attack which may threaten their very existence. You are a good example of that attack and terrorism for the TM community. I find you terribly interesting in this by example.

M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with terrorist acts of violence against community of people who never have to click on what they say unless they want to to rile themselves up like you do. This is way over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is disturbing and it is a creepy reaction to someone with a different POV on a movement HE was a part of himself and therefor certainly has a legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.

D: Once again in the news we have an example of 'group coalescing' to protect themselves individually and their very life to exist as a group:

M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person at best yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as if someone strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew up women, children and men. Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the fragility of a movement who can't take the criticism of someone who left the group. I think you missed your cult "Buck", you should have been a Scientologist. He didn't misrepresent you, you are comparing him to a terrorist group that actually kills people so we are killing them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying your comparison, you are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual people who actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from your own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.

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*-Buck in the Dome*

mjackson74 writes:

This from the guy who said I and people like me should be targeted with drone strikes.

? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything.

That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny.

There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end.
I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process.
Jai Guru Dev,
-Buck in the Dome

*From:* salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:48 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end.

Huh? I don't remember Judy being hounded off the list. She got no more kickback than usual anyway. In fact, she gave every impression of revelling in a good row. And she'd amassed a group of fans, I recall she just quit posting and that was that.

I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process.

It's the wild, wild web Buck. It's just the way things are done, there's trolls everywhere, I don't think Barry is one of them either.

So, what happened at the meeting, who said what and what are they going to do about it?

Jai Guru Dev,
-Buck in the Dome

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