On 10/24/2014 7:03 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I quite agree with what Curtis has said to Buck. He conveyed clearly.
Now, take a look at your reply.
>
/In psychology this kind of behavior is termed cognitive dissonance - a
discomfort experienced by an individual who is confronted by new
information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values. You
can see some clear cases of this in some of the current FFL informants.
For example, you can't run a large business like the IRS with just 200
employees; you can't hold both a belief in Buddhas and a reincarnating
Soul Spirit and at the same time be an atheist; you can't sing songs
written and performed by a believer and make them sound like the devil's
song; you can't carry on a decent conversation by being biased, putting
messages into folders and ignoring some; and you can't get people to
meditate in the domes by calling for an armed attack./
>
Your first reply was reasonable.
But then you display perfectly the characteristic why a member of this
forum, that you respect, referred to you as an "reaction vampire"
You nailed it.
Maybe one day, you will come to grips with this decidedly unattractive
trait, instead of attempting to pin this same description on those you
disagree with.
And just remember, you didn't hear it from me.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]"
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*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 8:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq
and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I
think we all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to
reality, but this is so over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick.
I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling
Michael a terrorist.
This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really
want "Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us"
senility that TMers display when someone does *nothing more* than
criticize the organization they identify with?
And, as Curtis points out, criticism appearing in a post that *THEY
freely chose to click on and read*?
It's not as if "Buck" doesn't know ahead of time what he's going to
find in one of Michael's posts. It's not as if Steve or Ann or Richard
or any of the other cult whiners don't know what they are going to
find in the posts that THEY choose to click on and read.
Fuckin' cult whiners. You can always tell when a cult has reached the
point where it's about to implode when its members have to invent
"faux outrages" to pretend to be affronted by to maintain the illusion
of their self importance.
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*From:* "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]"
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*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 5:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God
is a form of mental illness
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
D: Om No, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature of
your extreme hate
M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...
D: and behavior to be like Hamas
M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually
killing people. Kinda different don't you think?
D: and said I could empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with
ISIS and that level of such threats for instance. I can 'understand'
his position. Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves
for their life against terrorism and attack which may threaten their
very existence. You are a good example of that attack and terrorism
for the TM community. I find you terribly interesting in this by example.
M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with
terrorist acts of violence against community of people who never have
to click on what they say unless they want to to rile themselves up
like you do. This is way over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is
disturbing and it is a creepy reaction to someone with a different POV
on a movement HE was a part of himself and therefor certainly has a
legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.
D: Once again in the news we have an example of 'group coalescing' to
protect themselves individually and their very life to exist as a group:
M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person
at best yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as
if someone strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew
up women, children and men.
Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the
fragility of a movement who can't take the criticism of someone who
left the group. I think you missed your cult "Buck", you should have
been a Scientologist. He didn't misrepresent you, you are comparing
him to a terrorist group that actually kills people so we are killing
them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying your comparison, you
are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual people who
actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from your
own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.
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Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper called the events on Parliament
Hill "an attack on our values."
Stephen Harper described the attacker as a terrorist and promised to
"redouble" anti-terror efforts.
"In fact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our
efforts... to take all necessary steps to identify and counter threats
and keep Canada safe."**
*Om Canada!*
*-Buck in the Dome*
mjackson74 writes:
This from the guy who said I and people like me should be targeted
with drone strikes.
? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the
gusto!”
No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that
make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and
tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these
posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply
lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his
writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted
here. It is that simple also.
I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from
having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual
experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better
understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama
thread on FFL. Context often is everything.
That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL,
that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part
of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue
of her mind about things and by life experience as context about
things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards
people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing
to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public
forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny.
There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield
where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up
apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the
organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part
of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture.
There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the
attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for
years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would
miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of
this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they
hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick
and the moderators should have stopped that before the end.
I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process.
Jai Guru Dev,
-Buck in the Dome
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*From:* salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:48 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a
form of mental illness
In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy
personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the
moderators should have stopped that before the end.
Huh? I don't remember Judy being hounded off the list. She got no more
kickback than usual anyway. In fact, she gave every impression of
revelling in a good row. And she'd amassed a group of fans, I recall
she just quit posting and that was that.
I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process.
It's the wild, wild web Buck. It's just the way things are done,
there's trolls everywhere, I don't think Barry is one of them either.
So, what happened at the meeting, who said what and what are they
going to do about it?
Jai Guru Dev,
-Buck in the Dome