On 10/24/2014 7:55 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
HA ha! that was a typo - I was attempting to type I have NO hate not I have to hate.
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/It's too late - your message is already in the FFL archives - you "have to hate."

You just have to hate ///bank robbers with guns, thieves and crooks and the Movement.

And, /Buck, the TMO, the Marshy and Share. That makes you FFL's most whacked out denizen. It's now official. Thank you for attempting to set the record straight. /
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*From:* "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 8:46 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

Very little use in addressing this to Fairfield Life's most whacked out denizen but in fact I have to hate towards the Movement. If a man walks into bank, pulls out a gun, demands money, gets it and runs away there is not ate in calling him what he is, a thief or crook.

Marshy was a liar, a cheat, a con artist. Simple. His Movement has followed in his footsteps.

The leadership of the Movement from its top to its low level managers have consistently shown a lack of compassion, a willingness to lie to and manipulate people they have some authority over and to in general behave in ways that could hardly be called enlightened or even decent by common standards of behavior. They are often abusive, arrogant and so elitist as to be divorced from any sort of common everyday reality that most of us live in.

These are facts, not hate. It has been my choice to stand up to liars and con artists and tell it like it is.



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*From:* nablusoss1008 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 4:54 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness


Buck is right. The hate MJ represents is on the same level of extremity as any terrorrist. The only difference is he hasn't crossed the line into violence, yet.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :



Om No, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature of your extreme hate and behavior to be like Hamas and said I could empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with ISIS and that level of such threats for instance. I can 'understand' his position. Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves for their life against terrorism and attack which may threaten their very existence. You are a good example of that attack and terrorism for the TM community. I find you terribly interesting in this by example.

Once again in the news we have an example of 'group coalescing' to protect themselves individually and their very life to exist as a group:

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper called the events on Parliament Hill "an attack on our values."

Stephen Harper described the attacker as a terrorist and promised to "redouble" anti-terror efforts. "In fact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our efforts... to take all necessary steps to identify and counter threats and keep Canada safe."**

*Om Canada!*
*-Buck in the Dome*


mjackson74 writes:

This from the guy who said I and people like me should be targeted with drone strikes.




? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything.

That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny.

There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end.
I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process.
Jai Guru Dev,
-Buck in the Dome

*From:* salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:48 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness


In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end.

Huh? I don't remember Judy being hounded off the list. She got no more kickback than usual anyway. In fact, she gave every impression of revelling in a good row. And she'd amassed a group of fans, I recall she just quit posting and that was that.

I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process.

It's the wild, wild web Buck. It's just the way things are done, there's trolls everywhere, I don't think Barry is one of them either.

So, what happened at the meeting, who said what and what are they going to do about it?



Jai Guru Dev,
-Buck in the Dome









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