Richard, you want something silly?  I give you something silly. 

 Barry is having a near panic attack, pleading, insisting that someone explain 
to him the importance of the experience of unbounded awareness.  I guess he's 
got a turd he wants to drop on that or something.

 But, here. Get this.  Ask Barry to explain, how as a declared atheist, he 
explains karma, and rebirth, (which he is on record of buying into), and he 
mumbles, "It's not important.  It doesn't matter. No, not important at all"

 Richard, explain that to me, please, you can.

 Go figure?  No. I haven't figured that out.

---In, <punditster@...> wrote :

 On 10/24/2014 8:44 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

 This sounds like a pretzeling "moment" 

 It seems dirt simple to me. We are all bound by karma, which means actions, 
past and present. If a person does good deeds, he or she will be reborn in a 
better life. On the other hand, if a person does bad things, in the past or 
present, he or she will get reborn in hell, or a less than satisfactory 
situation. It's not complicated. 
 In some rare cases, if a person follows a spiritual path, does the work and 
realizes enlightenment, that person, if he or she has really good karma, may 
not have to be reborn again, unless they choose to do so, to help the rest of 
the world get free. But, you are only going to get as much enlightenment as you 
are going to get.
 So, based on my experience, what I've been told and what I have figured out - 
I believe in Life; what it does to you and what you do back. 
<punditster@...> mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 Xeno didn't even recognize the dissonance in Barry's preference for Bruce 
Cockburn songs. Everyone knows Cockburn is a born-again Christian. What about 
Barry's claim that a "belief in God is a form of mental illness." 
 On 10/24/2014 12:03 AM, blue_bungalow_2@... mailto:blue_bungalow_2@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
 This could explain how Winthrop and Albert worked on the 
 non-weapon part, of an exclusively weapons project, in which 
 one of them was denied security clearance.

 This is an example of cognitive dissonance - the mental stress or discomfort 
experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, 
ideas, or values at the same time.
 What I'm trying to do is alert Barry that he is exhibiting some roughness by 
posting contradictory messages to the group. Everyone already knows that Barry 
believes in Buddhas, karma, and reincarnation and that he bought and read Sam 
Harris' new book. Everyone already knows that (except apparently Xeno). 
 The thing that doesn't make any sense is, why Barry didn't understand what 
Harris wrote. It seems pretty simple to me. Harris makes a clear case for the 
value of spirituality, which he bases on his experiences in Buddhist 
 Go figure.


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