From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :


Translation please.  Interesting message, if it means anything.

It's a way of letting super-intelligent machines join in the fun on FFL, 
they'll destroy us last if we speak their language.



And they'll destroy those who don't believe they're the one true God first. 
Same as the God that believers believe in did, according to the books they 
believe are "scriptures." 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :


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On 10/26/2014 10:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
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>There are only 10 types of
people in the world, those that understand binary and
those that don't.
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>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :
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>Bhairitu, it does seem like everything is
binary even at the most fundamental levels: matter and
energy; yin and yang; crest and trough of waves;
impulses traveling via go and stop. 
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>On
Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:42 AM, "Bhairitu
noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>Funny,
you know I hang out around TV
circles and forums and I don't
recall anyone saying that "Person
of Interest" made history. 
Perhaps your grandfatherly crush
on Ms
Acker is clouding your judgment a
bit. :-D 
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>I caught an episode or two when it
started but thought it was
typical formulaic American TV and
I had much better things to
watch.  But as far as being
predictive even the title is
something
that emerged with the rise of the
American Fascist State after
9/11 with our Nazi-like Homeland
Security and Patriot Act.  You're
forgetting "A Scanner Darkly"
which predates that show not to
mention "1984" and even Fritz
Lang's "Metropolis", not to
mention
numerous science fiction novels
and short stories.  In a way I
thought that "Person of Interest"
was trying to acclimatize
Americans to the idea of
constantly being watched.  Right
now
they're trying to foment a lot of
fear over ISIS and Ebola to take
away even more of our civil
liberties.  Folks, don't stand for
it.
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>Of course now we can watch the
neighborhood ourselves as more and
more of us get surveillance
cameras being that the systems are
affordable and don't require some
monthly extortion fee from a
security company.  Funny thing
there as a kid in the 1950s I
would
get the yearly Allied Radio
catalog where I would buy
electronic
kits to build.  But my dream thing
to own back then in the late
1950s was a $300 TV camera they
sold.  It's main use was for
business owners to hook up to a TV
as a security camera.  Needless
to say I never came up with the
$300.
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>As for AI, it could very well be a
danger.  After all the
intellect is binary, just "yes" or
"no".  At the company I worked
for in the 1990s a team was trying
to build a product that would
emulate human behavior.  They were
doing so by processing a long
list of memes.  I told them that
was too complicated and mentioned
that the intellect was binary and
the human mind not that
complicated.  They thought I was
nuts until one of our project
leads came across a graduate paper
published by a Berkeley student
which demonstrated just that.  The
product shipped with just a few
variables which reliably did
emulate human behavior.
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>Where did my idea come from? 
Indian philosophy.
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>On 10/26/2014 03:41 AM,
TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
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>>>The
most
intelligent
examination of
AI in the
entertainment
world
these days is
a TV show
called "Person
Of
Interest,"
created by
Jonathon
Nolan. Nolan
is
the brother of
Christopher
Nolan, and was
co-writer of
many of his
big hits, such
as "The
Dark Night,"
"The Dark
Knight Rises,"
"The
Prestige," and
the short
story on which
his
brother's
"Memento" was
based. He'll
also be the
writer of his
brother's
upcoming
"Interstellar,"
already
getting great
reviews in
previews. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Person
Of
Interest" made
history by
predicting a
complex
arrangement of
computers and
closed-circuit
TV and
surveillance
equipment so
vast and so
uncontrolled
that it could
watch
literally
every minute
of our lives.
Interestingly,
Nolan did this
and put it on
mainstream TV
*before*
Snowdon blew
the whistle
and revealed
that the NSA
had this
ability in
real life and
was *already*
watching
pretty much
every moment
of our lives. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The
main
difference in
"Person Of
Interest" is
that
the force
behind all of
this
uber-surveillance
is "the
machine," an
AI developed
by Harold
Finch (Michael
Emerson from
"Lost"). In
the
early seasons
this AI gains
sentience and
begins
to help Finch
and his
associates
keep normal
people from
harm. But in
the last two
seasons
it's taken a
far darker
turn, as a
competing AI
has entered
the picture,
and now they
are
dueling in
cyberspace,
trying to
establish
dominance. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It's
actually
a fun and
entertaining
series. I
particularly
like Amy Acker
as Root, a
brilliant
computer
nerd/psychopath
who first
starts as an
enemy of "the
machine" and
who later
becomes its
disciple. Yes,
disciple. It
"sees all, and
knows
all," so what,
after all,
distinguishes
it from
God? 
>>>
>>>
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>>>________________________________
>>> From: "anartaxius@...
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
>>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>>Sent: Saturday,
October 25, 2014
11:04 PM
>>>Subject: [FairfieldLife]
Re: Rise of the
Machines
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>>> 
>>>The
dangers of
human
intelligence
are
known well
enough. Maybe
we should try
something
different? The
problem is we are creating AI,
if it mimics
us, we can
expect it to
do
the things we
do. Regardless
of whether
we regard
machines as
conscious or
not
(an unanswered
philosophical
question),
machines can
be aware of
their
environment in
a mechanistic
sense
(suspiciously
like how we
are aware of
our
environment).
A real AI
machine
would be a
self learner
and how
dangerous such
a machine
might be would
probably be
determined how
autonomously
it can
function in
the world and
how
complex its
neural net is.
>>>
>>>
>>>This has
been the
fodder of
science
fiction (Colossus:The
Forbin Project; 2001:
A
Space Odyssey and the Terminator series of
motion
pictures)
where the
technology
goes awry. On
the other hand
science
fiction has
positive
examples of
this (City; The
Bicentennial
Man; The City
and the Stars;
andI Robot to name a few
novels) where
artificial
intelligence
is generally
presented as
beneficial in
relation to
biological
organisms.
>>>
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>>>
>>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :
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>>>
>>>Elon
Musk warns of
the
dangers of
artificial
intelligence.
 Is he right?
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.cnbc.com/id/102121127?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cheadline%7Cstory&amp;par=yahoo&amp;doc=102121127#.
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