The TM-org projects an image as if it's honest, ethical, scientific, objective. But in reality it's dishonest, lying, cheating, superstitious, un-scientific organisation.
It's very much like some people who project themselves to be honest, ethical, impartial, objective, and yet later they turn out to be, dishonest, unethical, deceitful, insincere. The problem with net interaction is it takes years to find that out. --- <mjackson74@...> wrote : my position is to call a spade a spade. What makes you think the people who learned their craft from Marshy who was a con artist and liar, who taught them that they were and are above the laws of man and considerations of ethical behavior because they are the custodians of "supreme knowledge" and are privy to a magnificent view of the universe that the rest of us are too coarse and ignorant to see would ever change what has been working for them all these decades? You are hanging onto a fantasy that will never be fulfilled. The TMO, its leaders, its mid level and low level managers all behave with that energy that Marshy taught them works - and none of it has ever done a thing for the people of the world, regardless of those who believe the very fact of getting a mantra is some big deal. To illustrate, I offer you a piece of writing my friend Bill sent me after I sent him the Gina Catena audio. I think Bill makes some cogent points, albeit from a Christian point of view. "I have a friend who over the past 10 years or so pulled himself out of a marriage to a mentally ill and abusive wife. It took a lot of counseling for him to recognize his situation, but he finally extricated himself and his teenage daughter from this situation. One of the things he told me he learned from this experience is that families can become “cults”. When you hear Gina Catina’s story, you realize that the TMO provides fertile ground for the most dysfunctional sides of families to express themselves and thrive. The same kind of things can happen in Christendom, when a vision of “sanctification” becomes a thing of worship to the exclusion of common sense spirituality. I was thinking today that most of the problems of the TMO came from the attempt to move beyond the original intention to simply provide a meditation technique. The TMO tried to provide a foundation on which to build community, completely ignoring and rejecting the traditional foundation - organized religion and all it stands for. The social context that Christianity provides is a model of spiritual growth through giving selflessly of oneself based on the example of Jesus, whereas in the TMO this basic social context is absent. The TM context is based on a selfish pursuit of self development at all costs. At the top of the TMO is a man who achieved something by sitting in a cave and having people take care of him. This has it place and its own value, but doesn’t translate into a foundation for a social system. In spite of all the talk of dynamic activity, it doesn’t translate. The ultimate message is one of disassociation of yourself not only from the activities of the world, but also from relationship with each other. Compound that with a belief system where the man at the top is a perfect human being, and you have fertile ground for all kinds of dysfunction." From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Om, Dear MJ; under a theory that ethics is a leading economic indicator of organizational life, could your vitriolic level as to TM, the Maharishi and the meditation he promulgated and some of TM's past leadership be malleable if the new TM movement has changed its ethical code and behavior? Or, are you locked in to your feelings and opinion? Just wondering. I am seeing quite a lot of change [movement] in the new TM movement. Does that kind of healthy change dismay your position? Kindly, -Buck