---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote :
"What struck me because I have spent quite a bit of time around old people in the last few years and it seemed obvious that Maharishi was clearly suffering from the diminished capacity of age and very likely dementia. He was not well." Um, have you ever actually spent hours at a time with each resident of a nursing home, as in worked there, changing diapers, serving meals, doing bed checks? I have, and the thing that clearly distinguishes Maharishi's response, from that of someone suffering from dementia, is that Maharishi, despite some irritability, retains his focus. The same cannot be said of nursing home patients, with dementia. M: I didn't see him maintaining any "focus" but my point does not require a diagnosis of dementia, I was making a point about diminished capacity from an aging brain. The degree is not something we could know. J: Quite a stretch, from you, with a little cherry-picked "evidence" as garnish. M: It is irrelevant to my point and the term cherry -picked evidence does not apply here. I was simply making an observation and drawing my own conclusions from seeing and hear the tape after having seen the guy for about a quadrillian hours before his obvious decline. J: Seems very similar to the sort of things you have been accusing Nabby of lately, doesn't it? M: They have nothing in common. Nabbie was trolling me and I used it to discuss what I felt like. He also doesn't understand the meaning of some English words but he isn't an English speaker or very bright so he gets a pass. J: I guess fairness only counts, when *you* are the target. M: If you think Nabbie was being unfair please take it up with him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote : I was struck by the posted interview between the Aussie and the Maharishi through closed circuit TV where Maharishi was unable to field a question about whether or not he could actually fly by going into "you kids get off of my lawn" mode. What struck me because I have spent quite a bit of time around old people in the last few years and it seemed obvious that Maharishi was clearly suffering from the diminished capacity of age and very likely dementia. He was not well. This observation only matters because at the heart of a lot of the premises in TM is that the state of consciousness in enlightenment transcends the functioning of the brain. This is the premise on which we have claims about witnessing deep sleep for example, and all the conjectural nonsense surrounding what happens after a "conscious" enlightened death. It is stated in different ways as a premise underneath many claims about how a person functions in enlightenment. We saw Maharishi, who in his salad days would have gigglingly swatted away such a direct question calling him on an outrageous claim, completely flummoxed and left with a broom in his hand chasing the local scamps out of his rutabaga patch. How can it be that "consciousness development" can have an effect on the person after their brain stops functioning and rots, when it couldn't even weather the storm of old age for the supposedly most developed person, Maharishi himself? Apparently consciousness development has the same impact as imagination development when it comes to being able to resist the ravages of age. Brain functioning trumps all imagination of it being otherwise. And the difference between Maharishi in old age and my own father can only be seen clearly in the zeros in their bank accounts.