--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> But I agree, experientially, that inanimate things, like a "tree", 
> can serve as a catalyst. I used to literally have a "tree temple" 
in a
> large park -- that I "figured", "vowed" , "decided", "intuited" that
> through devotion I could make the divine manifest in that very spot.
> Like a murti in a temple. 
> 
> My above question has to do with the question of if its our "image"
> and "expectations" of the saints purity that invokes that within us,
> starting the energy chain and inner dynamics. 
>
 
****
How else could you explain the radical shifts in perception that can  
happen in one's relationship to a guru, shifts that are rather common 
also. After major disappointments the perfect divine guru changes to 
the embodiment of Satan. I have witnessed this kind of shift in a 
friend of mine. To me both these extremes are just projections. The 
person, imperfect human being, behind the guru mask is not seen.

I meet on daily basis people who shine forth the divine Self. They 
are quite ordinary people. It takes a certain kind of personality 
structure and cultural influence for one to become a guru. 

Irmeli






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