in contrast to puja, which may include image worship and devotional practices non-Vedic in origin.
Puja is non-vedic in origin???? ________________________________ From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Yagyas and Indulgences Yajña: (Sanskrit: 'sacrifice, offering'), in Hinduism, worship based on rites prescribed in the earliest scriptures of ancient India, the Vedas, in contrast to puja, which may include image worship and devotional practices non-Vedic in origin. A yajña is always purposeful, even though the aim may be as general as sustaining the natural order of the universe. Correct performance of the ritual and recitation of the necessary mantras, or sacred formulas, is considered essential; and the performer and the objects employed must all be in a high state of purity. Such ritual requirements gave rise to the professional class of priests, the modern Brahmans, who are still required to officiate at all important public yajñas. ——Encyclopædia Britannica Indugence: a distinctive feature of the penitential system of both the Western medieval and the Roman Catholic church that granted full or partial remission of the punishment of sin. The granting of indulgences was predicated on two beliefs. First, in the sacrament of penance it did not suffice to have the guilt (culpa) of sin forgiven through absolution alone; one also needed to undergo temporal punishment because one had offended Almighty God. Second, indulgences rested on belief in purgatory, a place in the next life where one could continue to cancel the accumulated debt of one's sins, another Western medieval conception not shared by the Eastern Greek church. >From the early church onward, bishops could reduce or dispense with the >rigours of penances, but indulgences emerged in only the 11th and 12th >centuries when the idea of purgatory took widespread hold and when the popes >became the activist leaders of the reforming church. In their zeal, they >promoted the militant reclamation of once-Christian lands—first of Iberia in >the Reconquista, then of the Holy Land in the Crusades—offering 'full >remission of sins,' the first indulgences, as inducements to participation. ...To clarify all these issues, the Scholastic theologians of the 12th and 13th centuries worked out a fully articulated theory of penance. It consisted of three parts: contrition, confession, and satisfaction. The debt of forgiven sin could be reduced through the performance of good works in this life (pilgrimages, charitable acts, and the like) or through suffering in purgatory. Indulgences could be granted only by popes or, to a lesser extent, archbishops and bishops as ways of helping ordinary people measure and amortize their remaining debt. 'Plenary,' or full, indulgences cancelled all the existing obligation, while 'partial' indulgences remitted only a portion of it. People naturally wanted to know how much debt was forgiven (just as modern students want to know exactly what they need to study for examinations), so set periods of days, months, and years came gradually to be attached to different kinds of partial indulgences. This highly complicated theological system, which was framed as a means to help people achieve their eternal salvation, easily lent itself to misunderstanding and abuse as early as the 13th century, much sooner than is usually thought. A principal contributing factor was money. Paralleling the rise of indulgences, the Crusades, and the reforming papacy was the economic resurgence of Europe that began in the 11th century. Part of this tremendous upsurge was the phenomenon of commutation, through which any services, obligations, or goods could be converted into a corresponding monetary payment. Those eager to gain plenary indulgences, but unable to go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem, wondered whether they might perform an alternative good work or make an equivalent offering to a charitable enterprise—for example, the building of a leprosarium or a cathedral. Churchmen allowed such commutation, and the popes even encouraged it, especially Innocent III (reigned 1198–1216) in his various Crusading projects.From the 12th century onward the process of salvation was therefore increasingly bound up with money. Reformers of the 14th and 15th centuries frequently complained about the 'sale' of indulgences by pardoners. And as the papacy weakened in this period, secular governments increasingly allowed the granting of indulgences only in return for a substantial share of the yield, often as much as two-thirds. The princes got most of the money, and the popes got most of the blame. ——Encyclopædia Britannica If the laws of nature are really laws of nature, they cannot be interfered with, they operate impersonally and uniformly, so what's the point of the attempt to modify what cannot be changed? Yagyas and Indulgences are a paid for scam that supports a priestly class whose only function is to administrate what happens automatically, absolutely; in other words they get paid to do nothing but pretend they are doing something. If you like to go to plays, movies, where actors pretend to be other people doing often remarkable fantastic things that no one would do in real life, and you enjoy paying money for this, you can do the same thing with yagyas and indulgences, pay money to pretend something imaginary is happening that will profoundly affect your life and the world. Except it doesn't really. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : Don't forget the "kavach" - an amulet that is reputed to ward off negative influences. I don't know if the Movement officially sells them, but I know some TM True Believers here in SC that wear them religiously. Check this crap out: "Dreaded diseases like cancer, heart attack, kidney failure, diabetes, asthama, paralysis, etc. are caused by severe afflictions to badly placed weak planets. The natal chart provides advance insight in one's vulnerability to such diseases. The experience and feedback shows that astrological remedial measures are likely to help persons with such natal influences to save themselves of such diseases. While the medicine systems treat the astrological remedies prevent. This is the biggest difference. It is like an insurance. If one sees its utility it costs nothing in comparison to the treatment if one contracts a dreaded disease." http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm "Special Power Kavach" from eminent Indian Vedic Astrolo... Kavach View on www.jyotishremedies1... Preview by Yahoo ________________________________ From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich HOW can *anyone* justify giving money to the TMO for "yagyas" that have been proven over and over to do absolutely nothing? It boggles the mind. Then again, most of the people still throwing their money into this pundit privy also still practice the TMSP technique, which has similarly been proved to do nothing. They still pay for astrology readings and jewels that do nothing, and live in Woo Woo houses that do nothing. My guess is that over time they've come to consider the quality of "doing nothing" as an actual measure of SUCCESS in a Woo Woo practice. :-) ________________________________ From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! ________________________________ From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@...> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. ________________________________ From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich "It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions" No refunds then.... At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev