Thanks, Doug. I've had deeksha from the Kalki group
and am looking to get some from the Chalanda Ma group
as soon as possible. If I like it, I'll learn how to
give it myself.   

--- dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> > Has anyone here received deeksha from the Chalanda
> Sai
> > Ma people? 
> 
> Yeah, its the same. Similar. A specific deeksha
> darshan to the brain 
> and upper chakras of the subtle system.  Depends
> some on who is 
> giving it.  
> 
> Chalanda Ma seems to be promoting it as something to
> learn in form 
> to give in that it cultivates the subtle system of
> the giver as 
> well.  Kalki seems to be holding the positioning it
> as something to 
> pay (him) for.  Chalanda Ma seems to be empire
> building with touches 
> of flash like this.  With either camp, then it is
> what you do with 
> it in the subtle system to illumine the divine
> within otherwise.  TM 
> may have started something, these additions are
> advancement and then 
> for instance Ammachi's IAM technique is a packaged
> spiritual 
> practice then to integrate the shakti juice that can
> be in the 
> deeksha that Chalanda Ma or Kalki are formatting. 
> That is my 
> experience with it.  Chalanda and Kalki seem to have
> quite a lot of 
> ego with it that they make contingent.  Ammachi's is
> pretty open-
> handed by comparison for instance.  That is also my
> experience with 
> it. 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Brahman"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > feste37 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, the people in Fairfield who give
> > > deeksha
> > > > > don't charge for it. It's free for anyone
> who
> > > wants it,
> > > > > although you can leave a donation if you
> want.
> > > There is
> > > > > no pressure on anyone to give or to recruit.
> 
> > > 
> > > Well, they do have the lingo down actually... 
> > > You'll be enlightened 
> > > and never need to do sadana anymore with enough
> > > deeksha.  Real sweet 
> > > and earnest people, are pretty
> > > vested and are going back for the next hit of
> > > darshan.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > i am curious how big of a following there is
> in
> > > fairfield
> > > > now, taking this "deeksha" ... just a handful,
> or
> > > is it
> > > > a growing trend now that TMO is faltering? Do
> they
> > > have
> > > > their own Center in fairfield, for this Kalki
> > > deeksha thing?
> > > > Or a website?
> > > 
> > > Seems sort of like everyone is giving `deeksha'
> > > here.   Chalanda Sai 
> > > Ma saw Kalki giving deeksh some while ago so she
> > > thought `heck I can 
> > > do that as a modality' and started giving it and
> > > also then teaching 
> > > how to give `deeksha'.  There is a lot of
> 'energy
> > > work' here otherwise 
> > > of the similar modality.    
> > > 
> > > The irony is that one of the first weekends that
> the
> > > couple who were 
> > > back from India having learned it for thousands
> of
> > > dollars from Kalki, 
> > > the local Chalanda Ma devotees gave a weekend
> course
> > > in how to give 
> > > deeksha for 45 bucks to cover the cost..   In
> both
> > > cases it is sort of 
> > > a laying of hands on the head energy work in
> form.  
> > > From either the 
> > > Kalki people here or the Chalanda Ma people here
> it
> > > is nice.  Partly 
> > > it is nice because of the powerful room of
> spiritual
> > > practitioners who 
> > > will git together and be at these meetings.  It
> is a
> > > powerful 
> > > meditating group here.    
> > > 
> > > As far as money, the Chalanda Sai Ma and Kalki
> folks
> > > here skate a fine 
> > > line just to cover costs.  People here generally
> are
> > > weary (sensitive) 
> > > of the cult thing of raising money.  Also, a lot
> of
> > > the money that 
> > > used to be here just is not anymore. … Just us
> > > spiritual church mice 
> > > remain mostly.
> > > 
> > > -Doug
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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