> She's the flower of compassion, ain't she? Seems to have an unusual fixation on prostitutes. --- Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> She's the flower of compassion, ain't she? > > Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *** Swami G has a website: > http://kundalinisupport.com/ > > > > a timely offering > on this ongoing subject) > > * Next question: If a disciple goes astray and then > comes > back to you and asks for forgiveness, is this almost > always, > always or rarely granted? > > g: depends ....... if they have taken Diksha > elsewhere then No > --- the bond is broken ..... other situations are > case by case .... > > * I am starting to run into a dilemma by the minute. > I > have all my travel plans for India but I think I am > getting talked > out of it as I continue to ask you questions. > > G: while india may hold a lot of allure ---- it is > Not the sole > place where an authentic Guru may be found....... > > > * When you say Diksha, there must be a vast > difference and > degree of it according to circumstances. For > example, Kalki > Bhagwan has his disciples or even I think students > that are not > full blown disciples give Diksha. He also has Diksha > going on > in his ashram. A Diksha giver that I met in New York > said it is > much more powerful at the ashram. > > G: yes ----- > > * It is explained in Kalki Bhagawan's site that his > dasaJi's > give the Diksha because if he did it, it would be > too > overpowering. > > G: i say that is total balderdash ...... he is just > to lazy to > take on that mantle ....... therefore it is being > taken over by > others so he can put his energies elsewhere ....... > WHY do guru's promote such crap ? that it would be > just to > overpowering IF he gave Diksha directly ....... > sorry i can't nor won't promote such a statement as > being > anyway valid..... > > * Would you give one of your disciples permission to > take > Diksha elsewhere? > > G: absolutely Not ....... > > you cannot walk two paths --- under two Guru's at > one time....... > i don't have the time nor inclination to continually > undo the > confusion that takes place when that happens > ........ Before > taking Diksha sadhakas should decide on One path > ...... > > * What if one of your disciples took Darshan from > mother > Meera, for example-she touches your head, and looks > at you. > > G: Darshan is different than Diksha ...... > > Diksha is transmitting some of the Guru's energy to > awakening > or stabalizing your Kundalini ----- it is also a > Commitment > like getting married ...... you don't go to the > altar and enter into a > marriage with more than one person at a time .... > Diksha is > almost like getting married and yet it is even a > deeper > commitment ...... the Guru is making a commitment to > Guide > you for the whole of this life and even beyond if > needed ..... Why > should Any authentic Guru commit to such a thing > with a > sadhaka who prefers to not honor such a relationship > .???..... > > Do you think it is ok to chase prostitutes and > dishonor your wife ? > perhaps a prostitute may give you a moment of joy > but then you > take the risk of picking up a disease ...... so what > is better ? > to chase prostitutes or to have a pure marriage with > one that > cares for your welfare ??? > > this isn't like signing up for a new course ..... a > new college > class...... Unfortunately this is how sadhakas are > viewing Diksha > and entering a path ......... oh it's just another > type of learning > and more is better ....... > > No it isn't ..... not when it comes to walking > through a Kundalini > path ....... > > * Or for example, I went to this center in NY, and > then when > the lady asked me to meditate with her mantra or > chant, I > explained that I already have my meditation > technique so I > will do that instead. > > G: this would be the correct way to handle it ...... > > * Are these sort of undertakings enough for you to > part with a > disciple? If so, then isn't it an individual > consideration for each > Guru based on his style, to determine which > punishment fits > which crime (so to speak)? > > G: there is no *punishment* ....... the Guru will > either work with > you ------ or when the bond has been breached on > Purpose then > Why in the world does the Guru owe you anything ? > > Sort of like if you have a husband that is carrying > on an affair or > running after prostitutes.... Why in the world > should the wife > continue to honor a commitment with her whole heart > when it is > clear that this Trust has been broken ...... this > relationship has > been severed on the energetic and heart levels by > his actions ..... > > Can you understand it better by this analogy ? it is > not an ego > thing on the part of the Guru ...... it is a full on > Commitment to > aide you within your journey ..... the Guru is > offering you the way > to find the Pearl of Great Price ........ they are > offering their time, > expertise , energy , hearts commitment , support , a > stabilizing > influence , clarity which you yet do not posses > ..... > > Now what are you offering in return ??? > to listen on occasion when you feel like it ? and > then to run here > and there seeing what else you can go play at ? > > Why oh Why would an authentic Guru continue to offer > a precious > chance at liberation to one who has only eyes for > his wayward > life ?? it is Amazing to see people expecting Guru's > to jump > through their hoops ..... > > What in the world do you think is so enticing about > accepting > sadhakas ? > > what great boon as a sadhaka are you offering that > any Guru > should be salivating after ???? > > Authentic Guru's offer this path out of Compassion > ....... > > Nothing has been offered that may be bought ..... > there is not > enough money in the world to purchase true > Liberation ..... you > cannot Buy Realization it is a Grace that takes > place ....... to put > any price tag on this is to cheapen it ...... and > This Guru is not a > cheap whore ..... Neither will this Guru continue to > beg > sadhakas to accept what is to Their benefit ....... > > what was it Christ said ? My God - my God how long > must i > suffer this faithless generation ....... " > > indeed how long ? > > Guru's that are selling courses and infor. have left > being > authentic Gurus and have sold out ...... they are > now > merchandisers ----- just another buisness with a > spiritual flavor > ........ yet they are So attractive ----- bigger > names --- hawking > bigger stories ...... it makes authentic Guru's want > to cry when > the Glitz is being confused with what is real ...... > oh but this Guru > has bigger claims or they tell a good joke and are > entertaining > ---- like Osho .... Wow follow your bliss ------ or > the next > proclaimed avatar ...... showmanship sells ..... > > why do people continue to chase wolves in sheeps > clothing ? > is it because the costumes and masks are playing > into peoples > Imaginations of how it Should look ? how it should > sound ? > > This is Kaliyuga ------- > > are there NONE that have eyes to see ? how blind is > this > generation ? > > maha shanti om > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in > one click. __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. 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