Excellent Turq! A good compilation showing that Benjy is a rather lame non-entity even amongst New Age freaks.
________________________________ From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence I don't actually *have* a guru. But as we all know, Nabby does. To find out how *he* stacks up against the "choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is respected" criterion, I searched for the most common tags applied to any reference to him on the Internet and found: Benjamin Creme Maitreya world spiritual fraud phony false world messiah charlatan There were also wonderful quotes, such as: "Creme is a marginalized figure even amongst his fellow New Age devotees; most likely because of his insistence upon an imminent appearance of a self-proclaimed Messiah." "Creme was always at the outskirts of the Theosophical crowd, and hardly achieved anything of importance. For example, in his monumental work on the New Age, False Dawn, Lee Penn spends a total of a paragraph and a half (and two footnotes) discussing Benjamin Creme and his Share International (pp. 314, 418, 462) – as basic an outline as possible. Likewise, esoteric scholar Wouter J. Hanegraaff, in his New Age Religion and Western Culture, devotes but one sentence on Creme (p. 101)." And of course there is this wonderful description in the New York Observer, written by Ron Rosenbaum: Long John is long gone, but Coast to Coast AM is there to keep you in touch with the night side of the culture that Long John first gave national voice to. You can still find that special undying brand of weirdness there. Updated, yes, and sometimes with the same kind of conspiracy theory you can find all over the Web, but still with room for iconic occult curiosities like Benjamin Creme, who appeared at 2 a.m. on a recent show. > > > >You know of Benjamin Creme, right, and his relation to Jesus, and you know >about Benjamin Creme’s prophetic function in regard to the coming of the Super Fifth Degree Master and Teacher, the great and mighty all-powerful Maitreya, who outranks Jesus himself, right? > > > >Well, don’t feel bad if you don’t. To recognize the name Benjamin Creme, you probably have to be, as I am, an assiduous student of New Age rhetoric and literature (I believe in what Stephen Greenblatt first called a “poetics of culture” before it was renamed and mass-marketed to grad students as “the New Historicism”). Anyway, while following New Age trends and obsessions, I noticed that Benjamin Creme was always a little on the fringes of the New Age guru circuit, but the guy seemed to have staying power. > > > >He always seemed to turn up in the New Age lecture calendars, a distinguished-looking gentleman who had something to say about the Second Coming of the Christ. I recall something about Jesus having already come back, that he was living quietly in London, awaiting recognition. I somehow had the impression—mistaken, I now realize—that he was implicitly suggesting that he was Jesus (he lived in London). But I guess it was more a matter of him having inside info on the London Christ’s plans for revealing himself. > > > >It gets confusing, and I could be wrong, but after listening to his appearance on Coast to Coast AM recently, I got the impression that Benjamin Creme’s emphasis has shifted from Jesus to an entity called Maitreya, who outranks Jesus in the Ascended Master hierarchy. Benjamin Creme is apparently in “telepathic contact” with one of the Fourth Degree Masters and in sporadic contact with the Master of All Masters, this dude Maitreya, who’s planning to reveal himself and set us all straight so that all humanity will start caring and sharing like the great big family we all are. About time. > > > >I have to admit that listening to Benjamin Creme being interviewed by George >Noory on Coast to Coast AM was a little frustrating. (Mr. Noory said that after Mr. Creme’s last appearance, a number of listeners called in to say they’d become physically ill afterward because they felt something coming through the radio. And there was some discussion of whether or not Maitreya might be the Antichrist). > > > >Mr. Creme was somewhat evasive about who the hell this Maitreya might be, what >his deal is, why he doesn’t manifest himself already aside from sporadic appearances in other people’s bodies, like that time in Nairobi. (Mr. Creme’s Web site, in case you want to try to figure it out, is www.shareintl.org.) > > > >There was some dialogue on whether Maitreya had “suspended” his visits. Or whether he was coming “very soon,” and also what exactly he was coming for and why he was waiting. I mean, if we need help from a Teacher to get us caring and sharing, couldn’t he have shown up in, say, 1914? > > > >So there was a bit of vagueness, and I could see maybe this was the way Benjamin Creme had become such a perennial icon on the guru circuit for so long: He wasn’t giving a lot away. And as long as he just brings news of Maitreya’s imminent arrival but the Big Guy never shows up, Benjamin Creme is still The Man. > > > >But it just makes you wonder: What would it be like to be Benjamin Creme? It’s the old deception versus self-deception thing. You gotta admire the guy’s persistence, but out on the road, in the quiet of his Comfort Inn, does he feel like the Willy Loman of the guru circuit? > > > ________________________________ From: nablusoss1008 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence A comment to be expected from the Turq. We all know that psychiatric wards are full of people being treated with psychofarma for having glimpses of higher states of consciousness they are not able to integrate in daily life. Experiences any real Sadhana will also give. The reason the Turq doesn't understand this is because he is a quitter that never did any Sadhana for any length of time in his entire life, instead choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is "respected and welcomed by heads of state everywhere". I'm sure there is a diagnosis for such fantasies as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not "disappear." Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence "If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it" You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.