I enjoyed reading about your serious consideration of UFO's. Purely going by logic, it doesn't make sense that we are the only living beings in the universe. However, I agree that many reports of UFOs are wishful thinking. Two personal experiences I can't explain: My ex-wife had an alien visitation, where they came up the stairs of our house, put a probe into her side and studied her, while I was asleep next to her. She was speechless and in shock afterwards - I can't say whether or not it was real, but her description and reaction sure seemed so. Other than that, last summer, I was in the yard and looked up, and saw a metallic shiny disc, hovering in the sky. I took some bad pictures of it, and felt as if I was being watched (attached).
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Sal doesn't like UFO's because they aren't scientific :-) It's an interesting point Nabs. The thing is one can only get scientific about something if it is available to study, UFO's are so fleeting and ephemeral that there really isn't anything to study other than hearsay or suspiciously absent film taken by higher powers to keep the whole thing secret. But a great many people have studied what they can about UFO sightings, and done it with as much rigour as you can with such a paucity of hard evidence. I'm not sure there is an encounter that hasn't got a better explanation that doesn't involve us being visited by beings from another world. And I don't just mean explaining things away, to be convincing you have to show that something more realistic happened, more credible and using explanations we already understand and are known to happen in certain circumstances. Even testing soil damage and skin burns for alternative causes. People are being scientific about UFO's. But here's the thing you overlook in your quip, I've been interested in UFO's for as long as I remember, I've a got a shelf full of the classic books on the subject. Even the true believer stuff from "serious" researchers like Timothy Good and the abductionists like Bud Hopkins. I bet I know all the great encounters by heart - Cortile, Ramirez, Roswell, Pascagoula, Ilkley Moor, Rendlesham... I love it but I don't take it at face value. To me, UFO's are folklore in action. The evolving myth of abduction and what they are supposedly doing here are the legends of our time, a new religion, encapsulating our fears about technology and promising us freedom from our destructive ways, yet always remaining remarkably evidence free. There's always a new vision to add to the mythos but conveniently never any hard evidence to help decide one way or the other. And the longer that scenario goes on the more convinced any casual observer should be that we are kidding ourselves, because deep down we like ghost stories and that's really what they are. Something scary always just out of reach. Techno ghost stories for the nuclear age. Former Astronaut Explains The UFO Cover-Up 2013 1080p HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Former Astronaut Explains The UFO Cover-Up 2013 ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Edgar Dean Mitchell, Sc.D. is an American pilot, retired Captain in the United States Navy and NASA astronaut. As the lunar module pilot of Apollo 14, ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : I didn't really read what sal has written below, but I think the gist of it is, that he doesn't like the person who coined the word "flying saucer" Is that what his dissertation is about this time? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : There is not one astronaut who has NOT reported seeing UFO's, sometimes huge and in large nubers, back to NASA and/or their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Gordon is not crazy, then the American government is purposefully, mindfully, ABSOLUTELY evil. If there are aliens visiting us and we're not being told -- it robs every person on Earth. EVERY PERSON ON EARTH. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone ever could possibly be who we are now if we knew that UFOs are real. IT. WOULD. CHANGE. EVERYTHING. And that's why it might be kept a secret -- the concept "money" would be bereft of allure. If you say that it would NOT be "all that much of a big deal, cuz everyone's so inured already by Hollywood films," then YOU DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY. Every person in every way: changed. Agreed. Luckily I don;t suppose it will come to that. Which is a shame as I'd be the happiest person on Earth if it turned out that UFO's were alien spacecraft, but the truth of sightings always turns out to be more mundane. Take the name "flying saucers", everyone sees saucer shaped craft but the name is a mistake from the first encounter anyone had. Kenneth Arnold (an experienced pilot) saw a squadron of highly reflective crescent shaped aircraft flying at great speed in a V formation over the Rocky mountains in 1947. He described them as flying like a saucer would if skipped across water. A journalist made up the name flying saucer and after that everyone saw saucer shaped craft when they saw something mysterious in the sky. The power of suggestion. Sadly there's no such thing as a reliable witness and any one can be fooled, Arnold most likely saw a flock of pelicans and mistook them for unknown aircraft and miscalculated their distance from him. We all make mistakes but the influence his mistake had is immeasurable. Because we people are so unreliable, if I had to bet I would say that Cooper saw some atmospheric effect from flying at supersonic speed that no one had noticed before and mistook it for real craft moving above him. And early radar was hopelessly unreliable, the UK air defence system in the cold war was always telling us that giant UFOs were crossing the north sea but when planes were scrambled to look it turned out to have been temperature inversions confusing the equipment. When these anomalies were understood and ironed out UFO reports stopped coming in. It's the way it goes, people see stuff and imagination plugs any gaps, popular culture is rife with imagery that came before the sightings. I can't trust myself let alone anyone else! I would like to see this film they took though but, I don't suppose we ever will. That's the way it's always been with UFO's, you get an incredible story that turns out to be something else or not to have any supporting evidence for whatever reason, and so much of it is easily explained away. I wish it were otherwise. I wish it were true. I want to believe! But it'd be a most curious coincidence if a journalist's artistic license in describing saucers actually coincided with real saucers appearing from another world. What are the chances of that? Astronaut Gordon Cooper Talks About UFOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc Astronaut Gordon Cooper Talks About UFOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc Mercury 9 and Gemini 5 astronaut Gordon Cooper talks about his UFO sightings and experiences. Okay, since somebody is questioning about UFO footage and Yo... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc Preview by Yahoo
