It seems Barry has the caricature of aliens being "little green men".
I guess that fits in his comfort zone. I'm not sure that's how it would play out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : From: Duveyoung <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word "if." Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the "if," ya see? Meanwhile, your claim "would not change my life in any way" seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Not gonna happen. I stand on what I said before. Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate "levitating" to "alien landing" in how strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe. And there you are saying you saw it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do "all that much of anything" to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either. What you're missing is having lived with seeing this for 14 years and watching as other people saw it, admitted having seen it and even raved about seeing it, but then a few days later claimed that they'd never seen it. Human beings have an investment in the status quo that can override ANYTHING. Have I got your reasoning here? Something like that? Did you actually KNOW that levitation was taking place, or did you say, "There's a 1% chance this is some sort of staged illusion." Even the slightest doubt would be -- to me -- why levitation didn't shake your world at the time. If there were zero doubts and yet still your world was not rocked, then, okay, I got no explanation for why your nervous system didn't "act normally." There was no doubt, and no need for it. It happened and in circumstances (like in a booth in Dennys) where no "setup" was possible. What "it" was that happened may still elude me, but it happened. What you don't get is that my nervous system treated this as normal BECAUSE IT WAS NORMAL. I saw this shit at least a couple a times a month for 14 years. After the first rush, it's pretty ho-hum stuff. But here's what I think REAL HUMANS would do if aliens landed: 1. Obsess. Think how easily great hunks of various populations can be shifted into a mindset. 1/3 of America was roused by the word "ebola" enough to have, say, dozens of thoughts per day about what it meant to their lives. And the other 2/3rds who were immune to the mental stampede yet still had to have had thoughts about ebola's characteristics just in order to be on top of the issue. None of the people I'd be interested in knowing or interfacing with would obsess. That would free me to deal with people with stronger minds. :-) See? If aliens land on the White House lawn, are you kidding me, Barry? The sheer amount of media tonnage would make you, force you, absolutely cram you with everyone's opinions about the event. There is zero way your nervous system could avoid the prongs, the triggerings and conclusions of everyone else, and perforce, you'd be a victim of a flood of thoughts about the aliens. Uh, Edg. You know that little button that is usually in the upper right or left of your computer or TV, the one that says, "OFF." It's possible to push it. :-) And "flood of thoughts" means IT CHANGES YOU. No, it changes YOU. *I* don't react to everyone around me thinking about a certain subject by having streams of obsessive thoughts about the same subject. YOU DO. From my point of view, only people with weak minds and no self control and no ability to practice mindfulness do that. No way you could avoid, say, having a thought about aliens EVERY FIVE MINUTES. It would be the first issue of everyone upon awakening in the morning. You clearly have never practiced mindfulness. 2. Question. There'd be no human agenda that was not obviously impacted. From wars all the way down to do-I-ask-her-to-marry-me would be revised in light of a landing. One word: WHY? What does what these little bug-eyed monsters think about anything MATTER? Why should their presence or non-presence inspire/threaten humans to do anything different than they ever have, unless the aliens actually did threaten them, and had the ability to follow through. I doubt seriously if there would be even one fewer war. If aliens land, I don't ask if I should marry, I ask if there will be a world tomorrow in which one might then marry. If aliens lands, I don't just keep bombing another county without asking, "Hmm, do the aliens have tech that could stomp us and what would they think about our warfare?" We must agree to disagree. And so forth for all agendas. Some agendas especially, but all agendas at least to some degree. 3. Doubt. Virtually every value would be re-examined in light of the landing. Am I my brother's keeper? Does God exist? What's the meaning of life? -- all these issues are now followed by "What do the aliens have to say about this?" I don't have any of these doubts now, and the presence of some little green man is not going to start them. You really do need someday to stop projecting how YOU would react onto the larger world. 4. Turmoil. It would be hard to underestimate the amount of carnage that would happen almost instantly given the present cultures on Earth. Every leader's status would now be needing an "aliens" statement, and with 1/3 of every population having a religious addiction, there's going to be throngs outside of every leader's office clamoring for decisions that favor their interpretations of the aliens, and if there's dissonance, there will be blood. "If you say aliens don't worship Allah, I keel you." "If aliens are okay with homos, kill the aliens." "Should I go to work today at the nuke-bomb-making-plant?" Etc. Again, since you don't seem to have discovered it, there is this thing called the OFF button. None of this shit has to affect you unless you WANT it to affect you. 5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. Look at Nabs going nutzoid for crop circles -- there's 1/3 of every population with similar minds -- hair triggered and half-cocked -- ready to do every single thing imaginable to the aliens. From "I want to have sex with you" to whole segments arming themselves to mass demonstrations to over-night-cults. The crazies along would exhaust global clarity with emotional obfuscations. And? There is crazy shit now. There would not really be much more if little green men were walking around. Enough? Do I have to do more numbers to show that you have not considered an alien landing hardly at all? YOU WOULD BE CHANGED. And you're full of shit. YOU would be changed. You're trying to insinuate that everyone -- and in particular, me -- is as weak-minded, obsessive, and drama queeny as yourself. We aren't.