---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :
Great, Salyavin! But did you ENJOY? At first I liked the TMSP but after a while it was more of a drag than a pleasure. Like TM I think most of the pleasure derived are from the effects are you are told are happening but aren't really. When you forget the hyperbole there isn't that much to TM (but I still enjoy it) I don't remember there being much of anything to the TMSP at all, some nice experiences occasionally but mostly the opposite. And then I resented the amount of time it took before finally giving up, why it took so long for me to quit is a sign of the teaching methods effectiveness, being involved in cultish behaviour like that can make it hard to look honestly at what you are doing. But one day, I looked around the flying room and concluded the whole thing was bollocks and walked out. I have been much happier ever since. Others I know still like it, go figure. From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : MJ, surely some qigong and kung fu programs offer certificates of mastery for the various levels. How is that different? I always thought that I should get a black belt for my yogic flying. I was proper good at it. Invincible defence from the unified field 3rd Dan, that was me. Sigh. From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What bs. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of seeker. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from "TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet," coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, "This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM." Think of it...over 50 years with a single "success story" they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be "the fastest path."
