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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <punditster@...>
<mailto:punditster@...> wrote :
On 11/23/2014 1:01 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
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The current situation is shameful.
>
/Agreed, but the answer is not//in continuing the current tax
structure. I am opposed to unfair income taxation. A better
idea might be a tax on luxury goods. One of the reason
businesses are leaving California and the U.S. is because of
unfair corporate taxation./
>
It is lying with statistics,
>
/The chart was compiled in 2011 by President Obama's
Congressional Budget Office (CBO) - it's a non-partisan
analysis. It proves that the rich pay almost all of the
income tax in the U.S. Do the math.//
//
//https://www.cbo.gov//
/http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share//
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based on an outmoded tax structure - Let the ultra-wealthy
give something back, besides the minimum. The only reason
that chart is trotted out, is to quiet those who know they
are being screwed, and to appease the very rich.
>
/So, it's an Obama government conspiracy to "quiet those" who
don't pay any income tax? You're not even making any sense
today, Jim.//
The federal government’s most intrusive and potentially
punitive institution, the IRS, unquestionably worked for
Barack Obama’s reelection by suppressing activities by
conservative groups.//
//
//http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will//
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How is someone worth a billion dollars, going to miss a
hundred million or so?
>
/A few million here and a few million there and pretty soon
you're talking real money. But, seriously it's not about the
money - it's all about the jobs./
>
The ultra rich use a disproportionate share of the common,
and they should pay their fair share, without any tax breaks.
>
/Not sure how you figure rich people paying 90% of all the
U.S. income tax is paying "their fair share. It sounds more
like the rich are the ones being screwed. The only fair
income tax would be a flat tax.
We are all supposed to be equal under the law, not prejudiced
against those that have more. Without the opportunity to be
rich people, everyone would be poor. Go figure./
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If they did that, and corporations chipped in their fair
share, that would be good enough for me.
>
/It's not good enough for me until they reform the tax code
and eliminate the IRS and implement a flat tax. A true flat
rate tax is a system of taxation where one tax rate is
applied to all income with no deductions.
//
//Flat taxes offer simplicity in the tax code, which has been
reported to increase compliance and decrease administration
costs. A true flat rate tax is a system of taxation where one
tax rate is applied to all income with no exceptions. The
flat rate would be applied to all taxable income and profits
without exception or exemption. //
//
//It could be argued that under such an arrangement, no one
is subject to a preferential or "unfair" tax treatment. No
industry receives special treatment, large households are not
advantaged at the expense of small ones, etc. //
//
//Moreover, the cost of tax filing for citizens and the cost
of tax administration for the government would be further
reduced, as under a true flat tax only businesses and the
self-employed would need to interact with the tax authorities./
>
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <punditster@...>
<mailto:punditster@...> wrote :
On 11/22/2014 2:28 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
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Yes, I agree that a larger safety net is necessary, and
the bucks for that should come from the ultra wealthy
who shirk their national responsibility, by evading taxes.
>
/A new CBO study shows that ‘the rich’ don’t just pay
their ‘fair share,’ they pay almost everybody’s share.
http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share//
>
Otherwise, we will continue to see the middle class
disappear, and be headed for a second revolution,
eventually.
Part of the issue, is that corporate titans are seen as
great visionaries and geniuses, instead of simply being
true to their charter, which is to turn as big a
profit, as possible, resources and populations be
damned. We need real leaders, not Warren Buffet and a
bunch of unethical salesmen, running this country.
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <noozguru@...>
<mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :
One of the ways of doing it would be guaranteed annual
income. That's a safety net and keeps people from
becoming desperate. In fact the crime reduction it
might produce might pay for it. You can look up the
different countries implementing it and see how they
are going to pay for it. Otherwise limit how much money
anyone can have because we're seeing that billionaires
are mentally ill and don't deserve the power they wield.
Americans are so brainwashed with a Tarzan like
"capitalism good, socialism bad" meme that its
difficult to get any decent change and it'll just send
us back to the middle ages where there are two classes
the extremely wealthy and the extremely poor. Don't
stand for it!
Nothing brings this out more than than the holiday
season or "Crassmust".
On 11/22/2014 10:20 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@...
<mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Yes, but I don't know how that would be possible.
This area I now live in, was a paradise for the
natives, for 3,000 years - no inter-tribal
warfare, and absolute respect for territorial
boundaries. But, they had nothing, and lived
entirely off the land. I like my tech, and modern
life, and not sure how that would happen, without
monetary rewards.
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>,
<noozguru@...> <mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :
People sure are desperate for making money so they
come up with their weirdest ideas. If there is a
future it's going to be VERY, VERY weird. Just
think what a nicer world this would be if people
didn't have to worry about making money.
On 11/22/2014 08:11 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@...
<mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@...> [FairfieldLife]
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