Richard, I think turq is bonkers wrt you. Honestly, imho, you're definitely one 
of the most versatile posters here: sometimes profound, sometimes funny, 
sometimes just plain interesting. Who cares if you post a lot?! Oh, that's 
right, people for whom *scrolling down* is such a hardship LOL!
      From: "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi
   
     On 11/26/2014 7:09 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  
        While I'm giving you the standard "Newbie warning" about Nabby, Tormod, 
I should probably caution you about  the person posting as Richard J. Williams 
(and also occasionally posting as "punditster," "Pundit Sir," "WillyTex," and 
other obvious aliases). 
       
 >
 Since we are introducing ourselves, maybe we should start out by letting new 
subscribers know that they can judge the respondents on this list by reading 
what they have posted to the group and just let their words speak for 
themselves. 
 
 Is that alright with you Mr. Wright?
 
 
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=Richard+J.+Williams&l=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com
 >
 
        
  He's another well-known crank and Internet troll, famous for doing everything 
he possibly can on this and other  forums to disrupt real conversations and 
provoke arguments for over 20 years now. 
  
  Read his stuff if you want, but bear in mind before replying to him that he 
is still on the Sexual Offender's List of  the state he lives in. As I 
understand it, many people where he lives...uh...date outside their species, 
but Richard preferred his conquests young, and thus developed relationships 
with *underaged* prairie dogs.  That's looked down upon, even in Texas.
  
  Don't say you weren't warned... 
     
 
      From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi
   
         Tormod, it may interest you to know that the person who  has been 
giving you such a hard time while posting anonymously as Nablusos1008 also 
lives in Norway. 
  
  He *claims* to have been a TM teacher and even  claims to have spent some 
time on TM Purusha courses in the past. But  it's important to remember that 
these are  unsubstantiated claims because 1) he posts anonymously, so no one  
knows his name, 2) as far as we can tell he wouldn't be allowed anywhere near a 
real TM facility these days  because of his association with and promotion of 
Off The  Program teachers such as Benjamin Creme, and 3)  he spends so much of 
his time being angry and lashing out at anyone  who isn't him that it's 
doubtful he ever meditated a day in his life. 
  
  Nabby (our nickname for him, since literally no one  here takes him 
seriously) is regarded by most as a crank. He  tends to write about his belief 
in aliens that he  calls the "Space Brothers" and about the supposed savior  
"Maitreya" touted by his real teacher Benjamin Creme, who has been about to 
appear any day now for almost thirty  years. Without ever appearing, of course. 
 :-)
  
  If you're there "on the ground" in Norway and  in touch with real TMers, ask 
around. Someone probably knows  who this guy claiming to be a former TM  
teacher really is. Let us know when you find out.  
 
 
        From: "Tormod Kinnes tkin...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:24 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings  and those of Maharishi
   
       RALLYING THROUGH SUSPICIONS 
  
  Nablusoss1008 - if that is your real name  . . . 
   
I would not have written what I  did if Maharishi had not himself  warned that  
this exact situation  would arise some time in the future.  I've never for a 
moment  believed that Paul Mason has the Movement's  progress as one of his  
priorities.
 As for the rest of what  you wrote it's mostly blabber, same  stuff as your 
"review" of An  Autobiography of A Yogi.
 
  Every wild donkey has a right to  be on its guard of predators and  humans. 
You look much more  like a clown to me, but . . . you may be  on the side of 
Jesus. He not  only suspected his family contained  enemies who would kill him  
- and they tried to - but warned in  public that "a man's enemies will be the  
members of his own household." (Matthew 10:36). You are not of my  household, 
thanks God! 
  Go and suspect wisely and  well on Biblical ground, you!  But don't be rash. 
  There is Buddha's great  advice to investigate - going  against dumb belief - 
a help to  suspect well, try to live  wisely and well, a candle in a dark,  
dark cave: 
 
"Etha tumhe Kalama. Ma anussavena,  ma paramparaya, ma itikiraya,  ma 
pitasampadanena,  ma takkahetu, ma nayahetu, ma  akaraparivitakkena, nid 
ditthinijjhanakkhantiya, ma bhabbarupataya,  ma samanro no garu ti."
 
 It says, in one translation:
 
 
Do not accept anything on  mere hearsay (ie, thinking that thus have  we heard 
it for a long  time).
 Do not accept anything by  mere tradition (ie, thinking that it has  been 
handed down thus  through many generations).
 Do not accept anything on  account of rumours (ie, by believing  what others 
say without  any investigation).
 Do not accept anything just  because it accords with your  scriptures.
 Do not accept anything by  mere supposition.
 Do not accept anything by  mere inference.
 Do not accept anything by  merely considering the  appearances.
 Do not accept anything  merely because it agrees with your  preconceived 
notions.
 Do not accept anything  merely because it seems acceptable  (ie, should be 
accepted).
 Do not accept anything  thinking that the ascetic is respected by  us (and 
that therefore it  is right to accept his word.)
 But when you know for  yourselves - these things are immoral,  these things 
are  blameworthy, these things are censured  by the wise, these things, when 
performed and undertaken,  conduce to ruin and sorrow - then  reject them.
 When you know for yourselves  - these things are moral, these things  are 
blameless, these things  are praised by the wise, these things,  when performed 
and  undertaken, conduce to well-being and  happiness - then live and  act 
accordingly." [This section:  Bht 284-85]
 
  So, try to benefit from the art  of suspicion also, learn to investigate like 
a human. 
  By the way, anonymous  posters are a motley crew with many  uncultivable 
cowards in it  ... You can take it to heart. I do  not say you were a fool with 
misplaced suspicions - that's where  civil manners and decency help out - up to 
a point.  
  As for me, I was fooled by  Autobiography of a Yogi. What I have  taken up in 
may Amazon  review of Autobiography of a Yogi  takes off from a blend of own  
experiences and facts. And there are many  more facts I could have  gone into. 
Some are here, on my own net  place and hosted by a Norwegian university:  
http://oaks.nvg.org/ayol.html
  
  -- 
 T. Kinnes     
 
         
 
            
 
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