On 11/29/2014 07:00 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

On 11/29/2014 3:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
The problem could be solved just doing two things which you will hate:
1) a basic guaranteed income so no one falls through the cracks. The need for this is becoming more obvious than ever as jobs disappear due to automation. 2) an income and estate limit the latter probably for about $20 million. Reach that and every penny over goes to the government to help fund number 1. Now there's plenty leeway in between but if you are so materialistic and greedy that $20 million isn't enough then perhaps you belong in an insane asylum.
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My system is one everyone would love:

1) Universal employment making good money so everyone can pay their own way.
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On 11/29/2014 8:12 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
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And the jobs come from where? The government? Well that screws up your number 2 proposal.
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/Jobs that pay good money don't come from the government - they come from the private sector./

But what if the private sector doesn't need any more workers?

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2) A smaller government with a balanced budget and no taxation.
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And you propose to pay for that tiny government how? You can have a smaller government with my proposal.
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/A small federal government doesn't need a big budget - most of the governing should be in the individual states./

So you would prefer paying higher state taxes?
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3) Unlimited freedom to earn and save or spend as much money as you want.
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Would be gamed by the selfish and greedy. The wannabe napoleons. We don't need any stinkin' napoleons. They fuck everything up.
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/Freedom means freedom to be selfish and greedy, if that's what they want./

Such attitudes are destructive to society. If you can't see that then you are part of the problem.

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It's simply that our system has become dysfunctional for it's citizens and time for change.
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Our free market system was voted in by the *people* who hold the power - it's the individuals who don't believe in freedom and liberty and equality that are dysfunctional. /No government should be allowed to spend more money than it has in the bank./
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So cut defense spending. Oh, can't do that, America must be number one and exceptional. What a fool's dream!
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/No, cut the federal budget by downsizing to pay for self-defense. The federal government should have a balanced budget, no borrowing./

But you still have to pay off all that debt to China.

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Political power is inherent in the *people.* When individuals rebel and break the law they should be punished.

So you would have thrown the founding fathers in prison?
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/The founding fathers represented the //*people*//- they did not act as individuals./

So does the public when they rebel against the establishment.

/Anyone that threatens the liberty of others, to seal "rich" people inside bunkers with concrete, or attempts overthrow the elected government, should be arrested, punished and put in prison./
Thomas Jefferson suggested that if the government no longer serves the people then it should be overthrown. Apparently you favor the status quo?
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/Anyone should be free to be rich if they want to be. It's in the U.S. Constitution./
Where exactly in the U.S. Constitution?


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