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 The "Kubrick film" I find most revealing in terms of what I didn't like about 
him as a writer and a director wasn't even filmed by Kubrick. He wrote the 
screenplay but died before making the film, so it was created as a tribute by 
Steven Spielberg, and called "A.I." For me, this film pinpoints Kubrick's 
biggest weakness -- he really didn't "get" human beings...how they think and 
act, and what makes them tick. He was so stuck in his own head that the things 
he came up with as plots often felt so *false* as to be unbelievable. 

 The example in "A.I." is that ostensibly (according to the voiceover 
introduction and Kubrick's script) the film was all about, "Can a robot feel 
love?" Yet if you watch the movie and pay attention, the entire movie is the 
robot obsessing about whether anyone loves *him*. Kubrick never noticed. 


 I never saw it, but did hear that Spielberg added a lot of shmaltz to it, but 
maybe it would have been unbearable to me anyway even without anything extra 
from a seasoned emotional manipulator like Spielberg.

 I do think that Kubrick's oddly disconnected style of super-controlled film 
making suited futuristic things. I really like "A Clockwork Orange", it's a 
shame enough other people didn't get it to the extent that he had to remove it 
from release himself. I heard a girl actually got raped by people dressed like 
the Droogs in the film. Talk about missing the point...

 Agreed that his style was better suited to portraying robots than humans, and 
thus better suited to scifi. Re "missing the point" about the gang rape scene 
in "A Clockwork Orange," the worst part about your story is that I heard that 
the wife of Anthony Burgess, author of the original novella Kubrick based the 
film on, really was gang-raped during the blackout in London. That event and 
its aftermath is what caused Burgess to write the novella.   




Oh dear, I didn't know that. That would explain his justification for the 

 It's funny, I always thought that most people didn't get the point of the 
film. Most see it as a warning about state mind control but it always seemed to 
me to be about the difference between social and personal vengeance. That the 
state don't have the right to let emotions dictate policy and treatment of 
prisoners, but people can't help themselves from acting out how they feel - 
especially when confronted with the fact they are fighting for the rights of 
someone who committed grievous harm on them and their own. 

 Kubrick never talked about his reasons for making the film, which is proper as 
it makes it more philosophical for the viewer. I consider it an artistic 
success but hope I'm not alone in finding it to be hilarious in a dark "Itchy 
and Scratchy" kind of way....

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