--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would tend to disagree, respectfully with the > > previous description; > > In that it was said, that there would need to always > > be > > some "indentification with something" for experience > > to occur. > > But that too, is an ego presentation: > > The ego is the hardest thing to conquer, because in > > enlightenment, it > > dies. It has no place in enlightenment; > > Why? > > Because in enlightenment, there is no need to > > "figure anything out". > > YOu are just there as a "Witness" of all experience/ > > I would love to replace the term, "witness" with > "context". The english term "witness" implies a > relationship ala waking state between a subject and > experience. As if in enlightenment one "watches" > everything; there is an "untouched" subject. This is a > misconception. There is no "subject" in enlightenment > in the phenomenological sense there is an "I" or > subject in waking state. There is just "pure > consciousness" and within that CONTEXT waking, > dreaming, and sleeping occur. There is no witnessing > or not-witnessing. There is no relationship between > Self and relative phenomena. This is the duality of CC > as MMY articulates it.
I've had various kinds of "flavors" of witnessing over the decades of TM practice. Some involve just a quiet watcher aloof from it all, and some involve everything just doing its own thing without "anyone home" to be doing the watching. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
