I have an organic lemon tree. That's because it takes nothing to have a
lemon tree in California. Just have the tree pruned about every other
year. They are Myers lemons so are slightly sweet. OTOH, I have a
green apple tree which I've tried to do organic. Doesn't matter what I
do and what insect traps I use they still get wormy. Apple trees are
just too much work. Coddling moths are the main pest and they lay eggs
on the buds so you have to put the traps out early. But the traps are
$18 for two. You can buy several bags of bug free organic apples at
Trader Joes for that.
On 02/18/2015 04:30 PM, Michael Jackson [email protected]
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
there is a hellofa taste difference between commercially raised
veggies and the ones I get from my brother who grows his in his rather
large garden - he is about 90% organic I guess and his produce is
mighty fine.
Big difference in taste also in the farm raised shrimp you get in the
grocery store and the wild caught ones we get from the buyers in
McClellanville SC who get them from the shrimpers who operate day
boats. Big difference in flavor for sure.
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*From:* ultrarishi <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:04 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Oh great! GMO apples approved for
growing in the US
You are right, I have not provided any links to show the safety of
organic vs. non organic and I'm not going to. I have researched this
enough over the decades that I am quite comfortable with what I have
seen, experienced and learn.
Have you seen who is behind the geneticliteracyproject.org. It's just
one of the many faces of the Hydra that Koch Bros. spawn every 5
minutes. And if you give them a little time we will see something like
Americans For Food Security, Alimentary Crossroads, and the Coffee Tea
and Me Party.
Even if GMO and non organic food was perfectly safe, it has been
horrible practice internationally. The vast majority of antibiotics
given out are going to animals because of the unsanitary and inhumane
ways they are raised. We are practicing monoculture which creates
extreme food insecurity when your crops are stricken with blight. We
have our economy dominated by big oil, big pharma and big agra which
are not innovating the drugs we need, especially antibiotics and
rendering what we have into uselessness. We fight wars in hot, dusty
countries that hate us (and for good reason) and modern agricultural
practices have destroyed the small farm and created margins so small
for farmers it's just not worth it to them. The big companies are
just like our financial institutions where they have gotten so large
they are too big to fail. So, even if their products are perfectly
safe I refuse to buy them because they are destroying small business,
our health system, our economy, our respect in the world. They are a
time bomb.
Genetic Literacy Project is directed by Jon Entine, who is a Fellow at
the American Enterprise Insttitute. One of his recent clients (drum
roll please) was Monsanto! Big surprise!
So, I'm not going to take the bait and engage in a discussion about
where is all the research. There is plenty of good reason NOT to eat
these foods that have little to do with food safety. I am trying to
keep as much of the money I earn in circulation in small, local
business who live where I live, have sustainable practices and treat
their employees (my neighbors) well. I do not want to give money to
the robber barons who are destroying this country while suspressing
wages, free speech, corporate transparency and accountability,
wantonly ignore global warming, screw the good work some NGO's are
doing, corrupting politics, and supporting big tobacco. I am sure
they have lots of studies that prove not only are these nerve toxins
safe on our foods, etc., but, in fact, are great for us. To steal one
of my favorite quotes: " I never meta-analysis I didn't like"!
---In [email protected], <richard@...> wrote :
We eat organic natural foods because we enjoy them and can afford them
and we live within walking distance of a Whole Foods Market, a Trader
Joe's, and a week-end Farmer's Market. The vast majority of people
cannot access these food sources or afford the higher prices. You are
considered part of the elite if you shop for food at these establishments.
You failed to provide any links or cite any sources that would
indicate that organic or non-GMO foods are superior to human health
over normal foods purchased at a Safeway food store. Organic food
preferences are simply personal preferences, cult fads and the food
fetishes of rich people. You also failed to provide any alternative
sources for the availability of food to the mass of humanity.
There is no scientific proof that organic or natural foods contribute
anything to improved human health over normal food in a Safeway store.
According to what I've read, there is broad scientific consensus that
food on the market derived from GM crops does not pose any greater
risk to human health than conventional food.
"In fact, 'factories' located within the plant itself are now known to
make new genes. The new genes are composed of pieces of old genes and
are put together haphazardly. Hence, we have always been eating foods
containing brand new — but totally uncharacterized —genes."
http://geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/02/17/confession-of-a-liberal-organic-food-consumer-and-scientist-i-support-gmos/
---In [email protected], <noozguru@...> wrote :
Farmers markets are year round here. The produce selection this winter
has been pretty dismal due to the drought.
When I was living in Seattle I shopped the co-op. Some of our
supermarkets, like Raley's, have large organic produce sections and
it's sometime worth checking prices because some items might be on
sale for less than the non-organic.
On 02/17/2015 10:18 PM, ultrarishi wrote:
And I forgot the Farmer's Markets (as in plural)! They are seasonal,
obviously, so the don't come readily to mind, especially this time of
the year. In addition to the people also subscribe to Food
Cooperatives. Many of our friends split a subscription because the
bounty is so large.
Here's a link to last year's Farmer's Market Guide. Dr. Triguna
would be proud of how seasonal our eating is,
LOL!
http://www.tricountyfarm.org/files/2014_tc_ffg.pdf
