On 03/06/2015 01:50 PM, salyavin808 wrote:




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On 03/06/2015 01:31 PM, salyavin808 wrote:




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    <mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :

    On 03/06/2015 01:10 PM, salyavin808 wrote:




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        <mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :

        OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised that people who have been
        observing healthful practices for years, not eating bad food
        with chemicals and preservatives might have severe reactions
        to vaccines which contain a lot of crap in them.  You spend
        years raising your kids to be healthy and then you're going
        to abandon those principles to help big pharma make money
        with "junk" vaccines?

        Prove it. And in the mean time consider the effect of return
        of the vicious and highly contageous illnesses we've all but
        banished because a few health freaks are worried about
        "poisoning" their children's bodies. It won't be pretty for
        the parents of the children at the Marshy school when some
        of them get ill but they'll only have themselves to blame.
        Or karma.

        People who have been watching their health usually have
strong immune systems.
        So the Marshy school kids are going to be immune and show the
        way for the rest of us? I think I hear nature laughing as the
        viruses mutate....


    And as they mutate big pharma can't even keep up with them.  So
the vaccines won't help anyway.
    Erm the vaccine virtually eradicated measles. It's only coming
    back because people aren't getting the shots they need to protect
    them.


Give then the old shots then not the new more expensive shots.



        It's funny how many times people's hubris has led them to
        think they're going to beat nature at what she does best -
        slaughter - and simply by virtue of diet and prayer! Good
        luck to them I say.


Do you get flu shots? I don't and I don't get flu nor even a cold.
    So you too believe that not being ill in the past is an indication
you aren't going to be ill in the future?
    O-k-a-y... Good luck with that.


If you pay attention you can make a flu or cold bug turn around at the door. Ayurveda is very good at this and you can do it with kitchen spices.


     Most people I know who get flu shots come down with the flu.  So
    those don't work and again they don't have the current strains in
    those shots anyway.

    If they have the current strain in the shot then they are very
    effective. This years shot in the UK wasn't any good because the
    virus mutated after they had ordered the dope.


That's what I said.

    Flu is something you want to avoid, it kills many thousands every
    year. Trusting to luck and magical thinking like "I haven't had it
    for years so I must be safe forever" is a poor strategy. And most
    illogical as there is plenty of evidence that the jab works and
    even more evidence that flu can kill you or leave you with serious
    long term side effects.


These shots are not free for many people in the US and they are expensive. Big pharma found their marks.


    Bet you scream about mercury in ayurvedic products but think that
    the mercury in vaccines are okay.



        And you need to understand that the vaccine being pushed is
        not the same one that was given children way back in the late
        1960s.  That one was fairly safe.  Did you read the PDF for
        the insert?  I posted the link to it here.  I'm guessing
        biochemistry is NOT one of your science interests.

        Now I'll let you get back to your mushy peas and chips. :-D


        What pisses me off is that any immunity I've got from
        vaccines or childhood exposure is long gone so I can get
        really ill again too. Thanks a lot yummy mummies!

        Religion's aim has always been to keep us in the dark ages.
        It might yet succeed.

            On 03/06/2015 12:09 PM, salyavin808 wrote:




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        <mailto:mjackson74@...> wrote :

        A few schools have large pools of unvaccinated kids
        
<http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2015/02/28/maharishi-school-fairfield-vaccinations/24193179/>

                
                
                
                
                
                
        A few schools have large pools of unvaccinated kids
        
<http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2015/02/28/maharishi-school-fairfield-vaccinations/24193179/>

        Maharishi School in Fairfield is only one where less than
        half of students are vaccinated.

        View on www.desmoinesregi...
        
<http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2015/02/28/maharishi-school-fairfield-vaccinations/24193179/>
                
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        Good points made by the reporter - like how can u have a
        religious exemption when TM is not a religion!!

        Those who choose to ignore the mistakes of the past are
        doomed to repeat them.

        I liked this bit:

        Movement members say it is not a religion, but stresses
        "natural" methods of staying well. Followers are urged to
        eat nutritious foods, exercise regularly, meditate and take
        other steps to maintain their health.

        Yes, I can really see the world's viruses respecting their
        healthy lifestyle and twice daily practise of meditation.
        Still, there's always the yagya programme as a last resort.

        Then there's the triumph of irrational thinking over common
        sense:

        Leila Montgomery is one of the Maharishi school parents who
        obtained a religious exemption to avoid vaccinations.
        Montgomery's 9-year-old son, Dil, is a third-grader at the
        school, and her 18-month-old daughter, Lyra, will soon
        start preschool there.

        Montgomery said her application for the exemption wasn't
        based on an organized religion's teachings, but it was
        sincere. She defines her religious belief as "my ability to
        listen to my inner intuition."She added: "I believe science
        is not my God."

        Montgomery said her children never get sick, and she
        credits good nutrition, exercise and other healthy habits.
        She doubts vaccines are as effective as promoters claim.
        She said she's not overly worried about her kids
        contracting diseases such as measles.

        "I don't live my life in fear,"she said.

        Maybe not, but she'll live her life in sorrow if her kids
        die of measles. I almost hope these deluded idiots get what
        they're asking for but a lot of other people will get ill
        when diseases like measles come back.

        It's an astonishing yet true fact, you may not be ill now
        but you may get ill in the future. Maybe this woman is so
        brainwashed by her lack of real world experience she
        actually thinks her children's current good health is an
        indication of their future good health? I wish her luck...

        I also blame the prevailing stupidity of the TMO and it's
        "prevention is better than cure" meme that puts having a
        perfectly balanced pulse ahead of anything else when it
        comes to health management. Oh, and eating seasonal organic
        vegetables. That's a big plus in the fight against
        contagious diseases obviously [eye roll].

        PS I think that "I believe science is not my God" is the
        dumbest statement I've ever encountered..







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