You prove Barry's words with every post.
From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The title of this article pretty much nails it
Another ludicrous straw man erected by Turquoise B. There are no cultists
on this forum. He has to invent them. And the other curious fact is that the
two people on this forum who are most obsessed with MMY and the TM movement are
none other than Turquoise B and Michael Jackson.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
Michael, they *have* to keep asserting that people like you (and me, and
Curtis, and Sal) "hate"Maharishi BECAUSE THEY'RE CULTISTS.
When they hear someone like us talking about him as if he were not only an
ordinary human being, but one for whom we have ZERO respect, it pushes their
cultist buttons. They can't help it. Because they still identify so heavily
with Maharishi as "their teacher" or Maharishi as "enlightened," they perceive
everything negative said against him as hatred and AS AN ATTACK ON THEM
PERSONALLY.
This is just how cultists think. But interestingly, this unconscious reaction
on their part is how the rest of the world *identifies* them *as* cultists.
This "gotta shoot the messenger...just gotta...because by attacking us he's
attacking ME" reaction is how everyone realizes that $cientologists are
cultists, because they simply can't help it. They *always* react this way.
Well, so do TMers who haven't gotten over belonging to a cult sufficiently to
be comfortable admitting that they belonged to a cult. Attack the cult itself
(the TMO), attack its leader (MMY), and for them it's the same as attacking
*them*. And the only reason they can come up with for doing that is "hatred."
The fascinating thing is that many of the people doing this would say similar
things about L. Ron Hubbard that you say about Maharishi -- that he was an
unprincipled charlatan who lied to his followers from Day One. They would never
for an instant consider themselves "hating" L. Ron Hubbard by doing
that...they're just unemotionally stating the facts as they see them. But these
SAME people, when we unemotionally say the same things about Maharishi, persist
in calling it "hatred" on our part.
It's not. It's just facing facts.
From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The title of this article pretty much nails it
How is it over the top to say that Borque and Larson's affection for M is
misplaced given what he did and specifically to them personally?
To characterize someone as an idiot may be over the top, but I didn't say it
because you disagreed with me, I said it because you people are telling me I
have emotional energy towards an old fraud that I don't have.
I am supposed to cozy up to you when you erroneously tell me what I am feeling
even when I tell you it isn't so? Thinking about it I have to say you ARE
idiots to maintain your stance. Why would I not say so if I did hate the old
fraud? I would freely and happily admit it, but it just isn't so.
There is a difference in disagreeing with something you say and disagreeing
with you characterizing me personally in ways that are untrue.
From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The title of this article pretty much nails it
What happens though when MJ calls youan "idiot" because he disagrees with
something you post ratherthan just sayin' he disagrees? Some of the criticism
was about MJbeing over the top. Some of these were from people who
aredefinitely not TB'ers.
On 03/10/2015 12:34 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:
From: "MichaelJackson mjackson74@...
[FairfieldLife]"<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Youare so much a better writer than meTurq! You nailed it.
Thiswhole thing comes from a comment Imade about Judith Borque and ConnyLarson
still loving Marshy andpraising him all these years later andme saying I think
their affection wasmisplaced. From that I was accused ofhatred which just isn't
true.
That's why Ichimed in. If you go back tothe original post in thisthread
(https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/411775)that
was my originalintention in what I saidthere, too. The womanwriting that
article wroteabout how she gave BillCosby a free pass on havingdrugged and
raped herbecause she was black andshe felt that she'd be"letting black America
downif she told the truth."
THAT is whatpeople like Feste and LG andSteve and the other cultapologists on
this forum do.They *know* the kinds ofshitty things that Maharishidid, and that
hisadministrators did in hisname. One cannot have beenpart of the TMO for as
longas they were *without*knowing this. But they stillcan't bring themselves
toadmit it, IMO because partof them thinks they'll be"letting spirituality
downif they tell the truth." Sothey continue to demonizethe critics to try to
divertattention away from anyonewho *does* tell the truthabout him.
It'sfoolish, because by *not*telling the truth they allowshit like the
stuffMaharishi pulled off tocontinue, and thus they*really* let
spiritualitydown. I think they're allcowards.
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