oh, that I had the time to do a search combining "turquoiseb" with the phrase, 
"cult", or "cult apologist". 

 tens of thousands hits by now?
 

 maybe, I don't even want to know.  it's rather sad to see this level of 
obsession.
 

---In [email protected], <turquoiseb@...> wrote :

 I suspect a LOT of TB TMers here miss Judy. The reason, of course, is that she 
was one of the only TM supporters here willing to address actual issues when 
critics brought them up. When it came to cult apologetics, she was Queen, 
because she usually had the intellect and the language skills to actually make 
her obfuscations, diversions, and lies sound as if she was "winning." That, and 
the fact that she always *claimed* to have "won."  :-)
 

 It's pretty obvious to me that the reason for the latest "pile on Barry" 
sessions is that I've been making some valid criticisms of TM, Maharishi, and 
cult apologists like David Orme-Johnson lately. And no one refutes them. The 
only TM supporter here who even *tries* any more is Lawson, and I respect him 
for at least trying to keep to the issues and not falling prey to the classic 
cult tactic of "Shoot the messenger." 

 

 The way I figure it, who these people are really pissed off at is 
*themselves*, because they really don't have either the language skills or the 
intelligence to defend TM, Maharishi, and the TMO. And some part of them still 
feels as if they "should" be defending these things, so they feel bad, and then 
they try to take that bad feeling they have about *themselves* out on me by 
dumping on me. 

 

 The thing is, it's kind of an obvious ploy, and 100% right out of the Cult 
Playbook, so their "Get Barry" routine actually does more harm to TM's 
reputation than staying silent does. But they're really not smart enough never 
figure that out, even when I tell them like I'm doing here, so I guess we can 
all expect more of the same...

 From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>

---In [email protected], <anartaxius@...> wrote :

  You cannot have that effect if you do not make contact, you are trying to 
redefine a word just like Judy did. I really miss Judy. She made this place a 
hell worthy of interaction.
 

 I miss Judy too. We need a Moriarty for our Holmes. Or is it the other way 
round? 
 










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