Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Mind of the Meditator"

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

May be two sides of the same pure Consciousness coin, as hinted at by a 
previous contributor. You may be conflating "going into Ecstacy" (the Ecstatic 
state is a particular state described by certain Christian Saints and their 
observers in which to outwarded appearances, the subject is (as if) dead or 
totally unconsciousness.)  While in Ecstasy, the Saint's body may be observed 
to levitate or engage in other mystical events. .
 Upon awakening to normal consciousness, the Saint may or may not have a memory 
of what transpired during the Ecstatic state.
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 Similarly, Ramakrishna made a big thing of "going into Samadhi" and being in a 
type of stupor.  Sometimes he would be standing while in the state.  His 
example appears to be close to what you are describing as a "true" state of 
Samadhi.
 ..
 However, it's unclear to me at least (not having experienced it), that one 
even has to go into the (to outward appearances) unconscious state  at all. Was 
not Krishnamurti in Unity regardless of what he did: waking, dreaming, deep 
sleep, or whatever.?
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 Similarly, in the Sat Mat (Radhaswami) Tradition, a state of Ecstasy is 
recognized accompanied by the body appearing as if dead, in a state of apparent 
rigor mortis.
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 Short if any "proof" or scientific evidence for the existence of such state's, 
I can only go so far as to listen to what the Saints have to say with an open 
mind; and some day hope to gain similar experiential knowledge.