There are two types of gurus in this world: those with
no egos and those with enormous egos.
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Diksha stuff:
>
> Note from disciple of G: I am posting this for
> clarification purposes.
> Since many people are leaving their organizations,
> or Gurus and
> then keeping 2 gurus or swithing to Bhagavan kalki,
> maybe the
> comments from Swami G about this long interview can
> give
> these people something to think about. It may be a
> bit confusing but the
> interview is between * and Bhagwan I think, or it
> could be bagwan answering
> following with Swami G comment (G).
>
> G: will comment as am able....
>
> * Bhagavan, how do you give enlightenment? How is it
> possible to give enlightenment?
>
> B: Ah yes. Basically it is through the process of
> what is called
> 'deeksha', an electrical energy which transfers
> through some
> kind of a hole in the mind of man.
>
> G: through some kind of *hole* ??? where is he
> getting this
> from ? Diksha is giving Shaktipat that in turn
> starts Shakti
> moving up through the layers of consciousness ......
>
>
> B: We believe that the mind of man is like a wall,
> which
> divides man from God. The deeksha is an electrical
> energy that
> makes a hole in this wall, which we call the mind.
> Once that
> happens, then God and man can come to relate with
> each other.
>
> G: if one is relating With God then it is duality
> and still seeking
> ...... once Diksha is given and mantras are imparted
> then
> instruction bears fruit and the path is begun
> upwards ......
>
>
> B: The way they relate has to do with his
> background, his
> conditioning, his aspirations, his education, so
> many factors.
> But it is God who gives enlightenment, whether you
> call it God or
> cosmic consciousness or nature, call it what you
> want. So that
> takes over and enlightenment is delivered through
> God. He is
> the one who delivers.
>
> G: God is not a He or an object that gives something
> ....
> enlightenment is not a badge man attains ...... it
> is our Original
> Seed Being ..... Grace appears as one surrenders and
> releases the conditioned mind which keeps the
> natural
> state of Realization at bey .......
>
>
> B: Our job is to give the deeksha and make a hole in
> the mind,
> and then God does the rest. It's a very complex
> process that
> only God can do.
>
> G: it is our Natural state ..... as what is
> unnatural is released
> then that which is the True replaces it ....... mind
> and mans
> attachments are what is Complex ...... Realization
> on the other
> hand is most natural and simplistic ...... Shakti
> knows the way
> but ego needs to get out of the way ......
>
>
> B: So when you give deeksha you speak of this
> deeksha as a
> neurobiological process that affects the brain?
>
> G: Consciousness is Not the brain ..... but the
> brain reacts as
> awareness becomes steady ..... the brain reacts
> depending on
> the level of consciousness and attention or samadhi
> level .....
> it is possible to change the brain waves at will
> this is possible to
> see with an eeg and bio-feedback test ...... first
> one enters a
> specific awareness and as that takes place the brain
> waves
> follow ..... i participated in such a test .....
>
>
> B: Yes, when we give deeksha it is like the passing
> on of an
> electrical energy that affects the brain, the spinal
> cord, and what
> we call the ductless glands or the 'chakras'.
>
> G: chakras are energy plexus ....... have never
> heard anyone
> term them ductless glands ..... the body reacts as
> the energy
> starts to open and expand the awareness to various
> levels .....
>
> * So most of the work is being done on the frontal
> lobes and
> the parietal lobes of the brain. There is an
> activation of the
> frontal lobes, and a deactivation of the parietal
> lobes, plus some
> energies are sent into the ductless glands to
> reactivate these
> chakras. So all this in turn produces a hole in the
> mind, and a
> link is established between God and man. Thereafter
> what
> happens is God's work. Up to then, of course, we can
> do certain
> things.
>
> G: there is nothing to substantiate this ( produces
> a hole in the
> brain indeed - what nonsense) ..... for the studies
> of mind and
> meditation read Zen and the Brain .... it has the
> most concrete
> studies that have been done in this area ......
>
>
> * : Right. So when you speak about losing the
> 'self', that's
> what happens when you make this hole in the wall?
>
> B: When you make the hole in the wall, then God can
> take over,
> and then he works on the senses, liberating the
> senses from
> the mind, from the clutches of the mind. When that
> happens you
> lose your 'self'. That part of the work happens
> through God
> himself. As he is the creator, He works like a
> computer to
> rearrange the brain, and He takes over.
>
> G: when Realization takes place the conditioned mind
> essentially implodes ..... it is like having a
> computer program
> deleted ..... the brain isn't re-arranged - nor the
> senses .....
> the image of a me story attached to a body etc. is
> over ......
> one is simply that Ever Present Seed Essence of
> Perfection ...
>
>
> * Bhagavan has stated that his mission is to bring
> 64,000
> people to enlightenment by the year 2012. This is
> .001% of the
> world's population. This number is the "100th
> monkey" that will
> create the necessary resonance effect needed to
> create a wave
> of mass enlightenment over a three day period in
> 2012.
> Recently Bhagavan was asked about the 2012 effect.
>
> G: right up there with the YK2 computer crash of the
> world .....
> or the end of the mayan calendar ----- while this
> sounds good
> it is speculation .....
>
> Question: What is the significance of the year 2012?
>
> B: Bhagavan: OK. Most of you know that the earth has
> got a
> magnetic field. As the earth's molten core is
> rotating, the
> magnetic field is created. The thought sphere of the
> human
> mind is located in the earth's magnetic field. This
> magnetic field
> has been weakening dramatically over last ten years.
>
> G: nonsense ......
>
> B: Now, in physics there is a parameter called
> "Schumann's
> Resonance". Using that we can determine the strength
> of the
> earth's magnetic field. While for many centuries, it
> was
> constant around 7.80 cycles per second, during the
> last 7-8
> years, it has risen to 11 cycles per second and is
> continuing to
> increase dramatically. If you work it out
> mathematically, it
> appears that, by the year 2012, the "Schumann's" is
> likely to be
> 13 cycles per second. When this resonance is 13
> cycles per
> second, the earth's core would stop rotating with
> magnetic field
> gone, you mind is gone. When I say "your mind", what
> I mean is
> your "samskaras". The pressure of the past 11,000
> years of
> samskaras will vanish.
>
> G: if that Were the case then this idea that there
> needs to be
> the 100th monkey of consciousness would be
> Irrelevant ......
>
>
> B: In the Dharma, we also say, "Mind is Karma". All
> actions
> start from your mind. The mind is nothing but a
> storehouse of
> samskaras or past life vasanas from which all action
> emanates.
>
> G: this is true .... it is this from which we are
> freed in
> Realization ......
>
> B: This is stored in the earth's magnetic field. So
> in the year
> 2012, it will become zero for a few days. After that
> the core will
> start rotating again. This would be a fresh
> beginning for man or
> the dawn of the Golden Age. This is the significance
> of the year
> 2012.
>
> G: in that case again Nothing would need to take
> place .....
> so this pushing for his plan to give Enlightenment
> to a certain
> amount of personages is once again bogus ...... both
> postulations can not hold water simultaneously
> ......
>
>
> B: How do we know it will happen? The study of
> fossil
> records has shown that, it happens roughly after
> 11,000 years.
> It's only a short time away and then we can all
> start afresh.
>
> G: so why the pushing with such a high pricetag ?
>
> Yes this is the end of Kali Yuga and WHY so many are
> starting to have spontaneous awakenings ......
>
> B: That is why I want you to become enlightened by
> 2012. If
> you are enlightened, with all your samskaras gone,
> we can
> begin a new yuga, which can be called Satya Yuga or
> the
> Golden Age. Man will enter into a new state of
> altered
> consciousness.
>
> G: hahahahahaha it is going to take place as it is
> ......
> this is Why a Realized one is not within a messiah
> complex ....
> there is no need ...... each will begin to Awaken
> within their own
> timing .... for those who are awakening now there
> are Gurus in
> place to aide them in their journey.....
>
> B: As I told you already, the earth's resonance is
> increasing
> which means the earth's heart is undergoing a
> transformation.
> The earth has got a physical body, like you have a
> body. It
> has got a consciousness as well. Now, as the
> resonance of the
> earth's heartbeat is increasing, the earth's heart
> functions very
> differently than before. Now, your heart and the
> earth's heart are
> connected. The earth's heart can be influenced by
> your heart
> and vice versa. That is why, it is essential that
> your heartbeat
> synchronise with the earth's resonance. This means
> your heart
> must flower. Your heart will flower when you
> discover love in
> your relationships.
>
> G: will say only that Bhakti is an essential part of
> any path .....
>
>
> B: If you have discovered love, you must stop
> judging your
> parents, spouses, etc., internally. Nobody can be
> judged as the
> whole universe directly influences all events, even
> the behaviour
> of people.
>
> G: then there would be no way to break free of it
> ..... each has
> Free will and therefore are able to break out of
> such influences
> ......
>
>
> B: So learn to experience life. Life has to be
> experienced, be it
> pain or pleasure.
>
> G: one must be ready to move beyond the attachments
> of life
> and the aversions .......
>
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