Interesting idea but I wonder why exactly? Peer pressure maybe, we do learn acceptance from the approval of our friends. Or maybe the acting out just makes it more real, I think a NLP practitioner would encourage it to reinforce beliefs with actions as a way of strengthening a new behaviour by incorporating larger neural networks, the more the nervous system is invested in an idea the more likely it will be remembered.
---In [email protected], <turquoiseb@...> wrote : This subject relates, at least for me, to an article/subject I tried to interest folks in discussing a few days ago: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/413668 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/413668?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma I thought that the writer of the article cited in that post was "onto something" with regard to imprinting and implanting and brainwashing. That is, that it's not necessarily being presented with the idea you're supposed to believe that causes you to become implanted with it, but how much you are required to ACT on the idea that determines how deeply it "sinks in" and becomes so deeply established that it can persist even for years after you leave the organization that implanted you with the idea. Following this train of thought, I would suggest that *TM teachers* are more likely to be implanted with long-lasting, virus-like ideas that they're largely unaware of than regular, non-teaching TMers are. NOT because the TM teachers were more exposed to propaganda and brainwashing (which they were), but because they were asked to ACT on the ideas they were being programmed to believe. They weren't just told to believe that TM was not a religion, they were required to stand up in front of audiences and say that it wasn't. This was an act that caused a much deeper imprinting than just being told something. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that having to stand up in front of other people and parrot an idea you've been taught to believe is MUCH more powerful than just hearing that idea in a lecture. From: salyavin808 <[email protected]> ---In [email protected], [email protected]> wrote : Buck the depressed whiner and Willy the repetitive ranter, there's probably psychological profiles of those types of psychosis somewhere. I had a friend, an old TM teacher like me, who met somekind of a clearvoyant, telling him that he had a TM implant in his brain, despite the fact that he had left the movement, and surely had adopted his own opinions on a number of things. He asked me at the time what I thought of it. Now I am not really a believer in the implant idea, you know there could be all kind of implants, from physical, to subtle physical etc. So I told him so. But after leaving TM, some decades ago, I soon realized, that not only stopping formal TM whoulc make me into a non-TMer. I realized that the concepts and ideas, the ideology, if you want the 'brainwashing' has still left traces, expectations, even in the subconscious. I had to make a conscious effort to rid myself of some of the TM concepts, which were like hooks clinging to me. I did this to an extend, so that I could feel happy, and not 'miss' anything of my old TM environment, instead enjoying my new life, and my new spiritual discoveries fully. (That's what about I told my friend) But later the thought, that there may indeed be something of a TM implant, that still was people hooking up, didn't leave me. In fact, could this be one explanation, how people here on FFL, both TB TMers (who will of course deny they are TB), and anti-TMers alike are hooked to the same story? Infact could also anti-cultist be fighting the same implant, that TMers so vehemently defend? This is just a thought, I know, I will probably not get a lot of support for it, but could there be something to it? I think that the world view of the reesh is so all encompassing that once you've been fully exposed, it takes a while and a lot of effort, to de-programme yourself. I still find odd ideas inside that I picked up in the movement so the idea of an implant - while not literal - is a good description of how the mind absorbs new ideas and defers to them, especially as most of those ideas come to you when you are in an intensely relaxed state on a rounding course just after meditating, it's brainwashing 101. And the idea that the state of inner silence is some sort of infinite ground state of reality is a good reinforcer when someone who claims to be talking from that level gives you an opinion to consider. It's all very clever and self-reinforcing and they deliberately let you in gently too so as not to scare off the newbies. Unless it's all true of course and Buck is right that we are all apostates who should be killed in drone strikes....
