Grass is cut, so....
I concede that Marshy did show some self effacing humility in the early days of
his world wide life long sojourn. But that self effacing quality went away
after a few years. This showed itself in many ways, especially in the last 10
years he was on earth.
I honestly feel he was a fraud and a self aggrandizing huckster who was really
almost another P.T. Barnum selling his Hindu flavored nostrums and vedic side
shows of yagyas and hopping on foam for world peace.
I also believe that the energy with which he created the Movement (which was
one of fraud and deception) is perpetuating itself and that his leaders both
large and small throughout the Movement follow in his footsteps energetically
both consciously and unconsciously in their furtherance of fraudulent programs
and in their own self aggrandizing efforts (both for themselves and the
Movement) and in their deceptive energy and practices. Apple don't fall far
from the tree and what they learned from him they feel is ok to do.
From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:09 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ethical Behavior and Culpability
MJ,in watching I feel this is an interesting point about ethical conductyou are
making about these guys or that narrower group of people inthe movement
community. Maharishi often withheld himself out oflineage of the guru tradition
in a separation by a means of a stopwith his deferring to Brahmananda Saraswati
and that line throughvedic masters going back through Shankara and beyond to
rishisbefore. Maharishi was really consistent with this, for whateverreasons
around culpability.
AsMaharishi came to the West it used to be that Maharishi was quick todeflect
people trying to 'pedestal' him, where he'd be walkingthrough an airport and
meditators meeting him would try to go totheir knees before him, he would
curtly nip that. At a point on acourse I was on with Maharishi, the
tru-believer types of thefaith-based side of the movement conspired to have the
whole groupsing a puja in a way that it was done 'to' Maharishi as he
arrivedfor a meeting. Oh was he annoyed with that positioning, with a looklike
the children had done something really wrong. The TM puja as wewere taught it
by M is an alignment straight to Shankara throughBrahmananda Saraswati.
Maharishi is not in the puja. Well, Maharishileft the course and did not
return for that nuttiness. He had cometo that meeting to deliver a discourse on
Patanjali, which he didgive for the camera. It was a fabulous lecture
elucidating on theYoga Sutras. But he left after the lecture. The tru-believers
werewarned ahead of that as they planned the choreography of the groupsinging
the Puja to M, but did it anyway. It really bombed, goingover like the
proverbial lead-balloon.
ButMaharishi and the secular TM movement he created out in the world dohave
their own leg on flow charts of the Vedic tradition and Westernspirituality as
transcendentalism in counter-point to materialism andformalism. Though now, at
this point the tru-believers have paintedMaharishi in to the bottom of the holy
tradition picture on stage. Eventually they might proly have themselves painted
in to the pictureas apostles. That is ego and you proly won't be able to stop
themparticularly. On the flowcharts of history the TM movement is prolynot
going to go entirely away anytime soon or go to ashes. Thetechnique is way too
good in ways in itself and may well outlive theorganization probably regardless
of the ethics of the peopleinvolved. Time will give the perspective. I do feel
you raise agood point though and it will be interesting to see who will be
ableto some day speak calmly to it from within the movement withperspective.
JaiGuruYou
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
I guess it all depends how you want to look at it. Certainly if thoughts and
emotions have any sort of energy, particularly those thoughts and feelings that
recur and those that alter our behavior then it sure looks like a hook or some
such.
It has taken me a long time to get free of it all, even years after I thought I
put it all behind me. Marshy sure was a con artist and so are his TM Movement
leaders, really all the TB'ers are who are in the Movement. I mean all of the
Bob Schneider, Bob Roth, Hagelin, Orme-Johnson, all of them. Some like Big
Bopper Bevan and that damnable Neil Patterson seem more egregious in their
behavior but they all perpetuate the fraud.
It will be a grand day when the Movement is reduced to ashes at least here in
the US.
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