Cool. I like these old Sufi and Zen stories, the ones with a punchline. But I'm 
not sure of this one's pedigree because I first heard this joke as a generic 
barroom joke. The owner's question was the same, but in the joke I heard, the 
job seeker replied that he'd gotten his experience in the Sahara Forest. The 
owner says, "You mean the Sahara Desert, don't you?" And the job seeker 
replies, "Well...it is *now*."  :-)
The appearance of this kind of story here strikes me as synchronicity-laden, so 
I'm going to pass along to you something that came up over dinner. We were 
talking about scifi, and opining about how hard it was to portray truly alien 
aliens. If you think about it, almost all of them in scifi have been 
anthropomorphized, and end up being pretty much like humans, only with bug 
eyes. As the talk went on, I remembered the best story that I remember reading 
in terms of capturing "alien-ness" -- it's by Terry Carr, and won both the Hugo 
Award and Nebula Award for Best Short Story in 1969. It's also very Zen. Or 
Sufi. It's about the conflict of two mindsets that in all likelihood will never 
understand each other, because the way their minds work is so different. I 
think you of all people on this forum will appreciate it:

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      From: "[email protected] [FairfieldLife]" 
<[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 8:42 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Nepal earthquake report from TM Center in 
Kathmandu
   
    This reminds me of the following story, from the Sufis:
The plantation owner was surprised to see the unlikely figure Nasrudin applying 
for a job.
'I'll give you a chance, although you don't look like the sort who could fell 
trees. Where did you learn to cut down trees?'
'In the Sahara desert', Nasrudin replied.
'But there aren't any trees in the Sahara.'
'No, there aren't, now', replied Nasrudin.



---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :


It must be tough in the yagya selling business. The only way you have to 
promote your wares is by saying astonishingly unconvincing things like "You 
know that Earthquake that didn't flatten your village yesterday? That was 
prevented by us"
A sceptic might say that we've no real idea whether an Earthquake would have 
flattened anyone's village without the awesome yagya performance. But that's 
just got to be nonsense, how could a system of reality based on the mighty 
wisdom of the veda's possibly be in error?
But it looks like something did go wrong - maybe some interference from that 
Hell Pit of Shiva agitation in Switzerland forced our normally strong grip on 
the laws of nature into abeyance for just a second? - and of course, once 
you've collected the money to pay for a prayer to make good things happen and 
then something bad happens, you need a ready explanation to get yourselves off 
the hook.
And here it is: It would have been worse if it had happened the day before. 
Well, you've got to have something to rally round. And this is the trouble with 
superstitious thinking, your view of the world is based on a nonsense and when 
- surprise surprise - your dysfunctional iron-age model doesn't work the way 
you expected it to you need a scapegoat, no matter how obscene, or those all 
important donations for the next round of pointless prayers to non-existent 
gods won't be so forthcoming. 
But just this once, instead of giving money to the TMO why not give it to the 
Red Cross, at least they are actually doing something to help the victims and 
it won't seem like you are just throwing your money onto a bonfire...
How we're helping in Nepal | British Red Cross
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Red Cross is supporting the three-year programme, which is funded by a £4 
million grant from the UK government’s Department for Internation... |  |
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-----Original Message-----
From: William Leed <wleed3@...>
To: wleed3 <wleed3@...>
Sent: Sun, May 3, 2015 9:18 pm
Subject: Fwd: Nepal earthquake report from TM Center in Kathmandu


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From:Steve<steve@...>
Date: Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:10 AM
Subject: Nepal earthquake report from TM Center in Kathmandu
To: Stephen Van Damme <steve@...>


TM Center in Kathmandu - Nepal Earthquake Report Namaste, I am writing a sort 
of general report for friends and for supporters of the Nepal Projects. This is 
going to a number of people and has nothing confidential in it, so anyone may 
freely share it with others.  There are so many enquiries about the situation 
here and even offers of help for relief work as we start to get our legs back 
from under us, since the earthquake. It is difficult for me to reply to 
everyone one at a time so please bear with the situation and not mind the 
generalities of this report. April 25th, just before noon, Nepal was struck by 
a magnitude 7.9 earthquake. The epicenter was approximately 50 miles from 
Kathmandu and about 30 miles from Pokhara.. roughly the center of the country…. 
 As anyone following the news knows there has been a lot of damage in the 
Kathmandu Valley and massive destruction in the rural districts surrounding the 
Kathmandu Valley.  At the latest count, more than 6,600 people were killed and 
property damage is at least 130,000 homes completely destroyed and maybe up to 
600,000 damaged to some degree. Many, many people are homeless and are 
surviving outdoors as best they can, as relief efforts to provide them with the 
basics of survival arrive. In the village areas the devastation is such that 
whole villages were flattened and in many place 70-90% of all buildings 
collapsed.  The number of people affected by this calamity is estimated to be 
about 8 million people or roughly 25% of the population of Nepal.  Right now 
about 650,000 people have left the Kathmandu Valley to return to their home 
villages to help their families or start relief work and salvaging what they 
can of their village homes. Kathmandu is starting to come back to life, but 
today (Saturday the 2nd) not 10% of the shops were open and traffic was almost 
negligible. The city has a largely deserted feeling and the people are doing 
OK, most Nepalis are cheerful by nature and stoic by disposition so they are 
handling things amazingly well. The old parts of the city have been badly 
damaged  and we have lost many wonderful, ancient Temples and national 
monuments. The Holy Temple of Pashupatinath was hardly damaged although many 
surrounding buildings were. Bhakatpur suffered a lot and I read that about 25 % 
of the houses came down, along with many temples, including the Natyapol 
temple, which is the biggest and most majestic of them all.  In Kathmandu 
amongst other collapsed structures was the KASTHMANDAP… dating from the 12th 
century, Kathmandu supposedly took its name from this ancient mandap in the 
Durbar Square. In contrast to all of this... much of the city shows little to 
no damage.. It seems to depend on the quality and age of the building 
construction. However many of the new apartment buildings have damage and it is 
too early to know if it is just cosmetic or structural and if they will have to 
come down. The economic loss is in the billions of dollars and the tourist 
industry will take  huge hit and time to recover.  Now that all sound rather 
harsh and certainly it is, but here is another angle and this is the underlying 
reality… The geologists and seismologists have been predicting a major 
earthquake could come at any time.. and in fact is considered long over due. 
The last major quake to hit Kathamndu was in 1934 and was proportionately even 
more devastating, considering the population of the Valley was less than 10% of 
what it is now. The predictions of the seismologists were very dire, with 
estimated fatalities in the 100s of thousands… Now here is the thing,.. the 
quake hit at noon on aSaturday, the day off in Nepal.  The timing was such that 
schools were closed and many places of business and all government offices were 
closed. In the rural areas most families were out in the fields planting the 
spring crops or preparing their fields.  If the quake had struck at night or 
the morning hours the death toll would have in fact been in the hundreds of 
thousands. These village homes are largely made of mud and stone with no mortar 
and they simply crumbled in a heartbeat.  There is no way to get around it… the 
Himalayas is one of the most seismically active areas of the world.. In fact 
this earthquake moved Kathmandu about 10 feet south and raised the Valley up 
about 3 feet… all in one go.. (Mount Everest sank by about an inch…) So, when 
you consider the Laws Of Nature, it is in fact almost a miracle that the damage 
occurred in a relatively narrow window of the day and day of the week that 
could mitigate such a potential calamity. People here are very much aware of 
this and deeply grateful that Nature’s timing was as kind as it was.. This is 
not to belie the extent of the suffering and destruction.. It IS MASSIVE, but 
it could have been so very much worse.  Now that is interesting from our 
perspective in that these days in Nepal there are very many Maharishi Yagyas 
going on… None of the Maharishi Pandits were harmed although many lost family 
village homes.. They have been working for the last 6 years to create coherence 
for Nepal and the world…. During this time, we have seen a marked increase in 
coherence in the political field. The Maoist party lost their destructive edge, 
were sidelined by the political process and have now faded largely into 
irrelevancy. The political parties have a long way to go, no doubt, but the 
situation has improved like the day from the night. In many areas of society we 
have seen all the predicted signs of increasing coherence and especially since 
we have had the first TM SIdhi Courses in Nepal.  I am writing these points 
because it is important to have a perspective during times of natural calamity… 
they can seem so arbitrary and the suffering can seem so vast. In truth, yes we 
are suffering now in Nepal… but it is a fraction of what was predicted and 
considering everything we are very grateful. Another area of gratitude that I 
must acknowledge is the response from the International Community. Relief aid 
is flooding into the country. Even I received 95 concerned emails from friends 
and Foundation supporters, the very morning after the earthquake…  So, I am 
confident that Nepal will rebuild… it is going to be an on going effort for 
some time, but the Nepalis are a self reliant people. getting through the next 
months will be hard, no doubt, but they will do it. I have told friends that 
‘if’ I have to face such a situation as this, in my life, then there are no 
better people to go through it will than our Nepali friends. I love these 
people and for me this is home. I want to thank all the friends and supporters 
for your kind attention and the sincerity of your hearts.. It has been a great 
honor for me to have helped host many guests these last years and watch the 
marvel on your faces as Nepal unfolded HER magic for you. If anyone wants to 
participate in the relief efforts or offer support in any way, it is welcome. 
But, neither Atmaram-Dai nor I are soliciting any donations from anyone or 
anywhere. If you contact us individually we can steer you to legitimate 
Foundations that can accept donations and give you a tax exemption. Our work is 
to create coherence and support the Cultural Integrity of Nepal and it is the 
most heart felt work that I have ever done in my life. I consider it to be the 
greatest gift that I have ever received and sharing it with others has been 
just a huge and wonderful part of my life. Thanks. Jai Guru Dev  and all the 
best to all of you. Ramprasad ============================================
Nepal earthquake in 75 photos: 

All about the disaster that killed 6,100, destroyed 6 lakh houses|
   
   - May 01, 2015
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