I'm sure he posted that in response to my satirical post on MUM.
From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines:
Share what you know. Find the groups that are right for you.
Post your own content.
Have a good time.
---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant to
the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content.“Don't
threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other people's
privacy.”..the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the group
altogether.“2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not
welcome in Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity
or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another
person or group for profit oradvantage;
to use selfishly for one's own ends.Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect;
humiliatingBelligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition,
orattitude.Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.
Adisrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan
expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or
scornful.Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to
insultthem or damage their reputation.Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent.
To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild
over-vehement way; rave.Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it
correctly. “Don'tbe unkind”. We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a
safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole
discretion,may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo
IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you haveacted
inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Termsof Service or
the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes youhave violated or tried to
violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and
positive experience. Ifyou see a Group or content that violates our rules,
please let usknow by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]. Some people evidently are
notamenable to group collaborations which it seems is why groups,organizations
or larger society may well protect and preserve themselves for theutility and
well-being of their larger membership by removing orseparating destructive
asocial members.There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at
Yahoo-groups by what has beenallowed to become a dominant culture of a few
here. Of afear of getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of
puttingones thoughts and self forward. Folks generally are denied
theopportunity to think together with good people on FFL for all thesnark of
the ad hominem attack.It takes skills and practice tosee discussion as thinking
but it takes allies of kindness to thinktogether creatively. For the engagement
within a group [FFL] to beeffective there need be folks and a moderation
willing and able to stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have
athinking forum.Truth evidently won't 'set usfree' until we have the courage,
skills, habit and moral courageto kindly explore it. There evidently are few
allies of civildiscourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here
toevenly protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up tothe folks
left here to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discoursehas been 'thrown to
the dogs' on FFL to tear up by a lack ofmoderation let alone any
self-control.The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people
were not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling
mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the
bullying Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada.
Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it
fully.”In thinking together, peopleoften may fail in process of creative
thought out of fears to extendthemselves individually in to the collective, for
fear of engagingwith evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may
provokeunfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on
tothemselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process'takes
skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get goodat it, to get
beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too manyof the writers in
character writing here derail creative thinking onFFL by their default to the
assault of the personal invective insteadof just commenting on a substance of
the material brought. Thatabusive character has been really unfortunate for the
larger FFLcommunity.The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find
constructive ways of engaging with people. Thattakes kindness, tolerance and
patience as skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be
creative, to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that
by a gripof vice of some folks who dominate FFL.Collaborating
in'Disconfirmation': seeking different ways of looking at models, of'thinking'
in constructive conflict.Thoughtful conversation seems awilling kind
collaborative, a kind cooperative 'process indisconfirmation'. By contrast a
trust in kindness as element hasbeen driven out of Fairfieldlife at
Yahoo-groups by a dominantmethodical use of personal invective in the ad
hominem used as weaponto personally hurt people here.Collaboration in a type
of,Love? In kindness to a creative process?Quite evidently
thoughtfulconversation takes a civil kind collaboration in self-control to
haveproductive conversation. Some have done their poisonous work herewith the
communal well-spring.Collaboration? Could many folksdare at all to publicly
disagree here on FFL anymore given the lackof self-restraint in the culture
that remains on FFL? What is mostlymissing now from the dominant FFL writing is
a kindness to process, alove enough of collaboration that seems necessary
enough for there tobe creative thinking between people. Instead what we have is
aculture of rudeness that has long interrupted the communal thinkinghere and
driven people away.The cultural place that was FFLseems to have been poisoned.
The place evidently has died for lack ofa willing collaboration as an oxygen
that could include other points ofview other than some caustic character of
dominant internet hatersand personalities in method. The cost to FairfieldLife
atYahoo-groups has been the loss of a forum for communal thinking.A pervasive
unkindness in ad hominem-istic snarkparading as 'intellectual retort', it's the
dominant 'culture' here atFFL now, as the evident lack in thoughtful community
culture here. Folks otherwise have come instead to fear to spend their time
thinking here reading let alone posting here. It is a sad commentary on how it
has gone down for FFL. Many of the writers left here have in many ways become
the people they revile, bullies like they see Bevan or others in the movement
community.Salon, saloon or shalom; who would enter in to a place met with the
likes of, “You Suck..” or “Fuck you” as first text lines or “You lying Fuck” as
a subject heading? MJ, there was a long period of a poisonous malignancy here
in the postings between a few people who came on before you came along and
added to it in your way. FFL is just not a safe place for well-meaning people
to loiter or join in hence most folks wandered out. Meditators and people
around Fairfield here always go 'whew-phew' and roll their eyes about the
reputation of FFL as a place for thoughtful dialogue whence FFL gets mentioned.
FFL got wrecked a while ago as a community place that way. mjackson74 wrote,
well Buck how do you account for the departure of all the people who used to
post on FFL in the years before I joined? Looking back at the archives, there
were a whole bunch of folk who had already dropped out before I came along, so
the fact that Judy, Anne, Jimmy the Enlightened and Nappy Nabby jumped ship
does not seem to be that much of a recent trend.Yep, even Rick chooses to post
substantial material elsewhere now instead of posting to FFL as to just
shark-feeding for what is left remaining of FFL. A long list of people is now
gone before us who had once helped further the culture of the list, mostly been
driven off by an aggressive and appalling unkindness of culture in the ongoing
personal shark-like attack by the ad hominem that evidently has become endemic
here; that seeming 'professionals' default to use in their writing method
instead of simply dealing with material posed. And those same complain about
originality, thinking and lack of creativity..Nothing to see here folks. Just
another person trying to blame the fact that he and the people he likes can't
think of anything intelligent to say on the people they don't like. :-)Good
timing, Turqb,Left or driven off? This as your thinking is fine as intelligent
retort on one level Anartaxius except, the low post and dwindled active member
counts may show something else.Looking in on the culture of what is FFL now, is
it a surprise the numbers have dropped off when there is so much about
Fairfield or larger spiritual matter being talked about otherwise by others
actively involved in it? No, it is like the well was poisoned here by
some.Ironically there is an evident invective that is intolerance to
conversation here and to divergent idea by a concentration of some few who
remain active posting here.It could be we are just getting on with our lives.
Now that most of the TB crazies have left, some of the tart, sharp conversation
has dwindled, and there are less opportunities for intelligent retorts. I think
you would have welcomed the change. 'Intelligent retort'?We've not been very
good at discussion here for some time on FFL and the place as a forum is nearly
dead.Yep, visiting looking back in on Fairfieldlife at yahoo-groups evidently
this is mostly a sad inhospitable place rendered down to some pulp substance of
travelogue, movie reviews and the personal bickerings of a few. Om, for what
once was Fairfieldlife,Sooooooooooo, turns out that there WERE ZERO posts since
last night.Just another tell that FFL is going down for the count.
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