---In [email protected], <anartaxius@...> wrote :
On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:24 PM, "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> wrote: As we continue in life we grow in experiences and we draw certain conclusions from those experiences. We draw these conclusions from our first hand experiences and from things we observe or ideas we come into contact with. If you wish to discount these conclusions, or determine that they don't meet a certain threshold, then that is the way you roll. And, it you wish to limit the conclusions you draw to want can be objectively measured, or confirmed, again so be it. What is of some usefulness, is to use the real world as some kind of metric, in terms of quality of relationships, happiness, etc. And if you can check off some boxes in those areas, then I would think everything is going pretty well. Right now, I am going to my daughter's Lacrosse Banquet. I wasn't able to attend many of her games, so I don't want to be late for this dinner. (-: In my case, from my accumulated knowledge, I believe some aspect of our existence goes forward in a personalized form. If you have knowledge then you must have some direct experience of this 'accumulated knowledge', unless you are using the word 'accumulated knowledge' to refer to ideas you have garnered second hand, in which case it is simply a mental stance waiting for confirmation. So what is that accumulated knowledge? It must have an expressible description for otherwise you probably could not even specify that you know something. ---In [email protected], <anartaxius@...> wrote : It's not what we believe, it's what we know. But what we know for sure seems to be only that we exist now. I hypothesise that at death, the world comes to an end because the means of experience, the nervous system ceases to function. None of the 'subtle body' shit persisting, because the 'subtle body' is still the nervous system, it's part of the software of the neural net, a neural map of the body. As for a 'soul', there is only being, so 'soul' is a redundant conceptual entity related to the software map called the 'subtle body'. There are probably better ways technically to name these things. The mistake is 'immortality' is eternity in a timeless present, rather than persistence in time. ---In [email protected], <steve.sundur@...> wrote : There's always, "reality could be this, reality could be that" what really counts, is what you believe. do you believe, as many do, that when you die, it's lights out? I don't care if you answer it or not. But, I suspect you do not believe it, even you care to dance around it, with, "well, I have no proof" not that it has any practical value, but as humans we ponder these things, even if it doesn't affect our day to day actions. on the other hand, philosophical discussions of this nature, at least on this forum have pretty much ceased to be interesting, or instructive.
