Marketing people are the problem. If you're ever worked with them they are nuts. They will do whatever it takes to sell a product include annoying the customer. And if you tell them "those ads are annoying" they don't care. One of my employees back in the early 1990s called them "marketing pukes" and got in trouble for it as he called them that as he walked past their meeting in the rec room. Thing is he later had a better career than any of them had as a CTO of a very major US corporation.

I still like watch some TV shows and the way to do that cutting the cable and not wearing an eyepatch is in the US to use Hulu+. It plays on your TV via apps on devices such as my Blu-ray player. What I do is hit the mute button when the ads run which helps. I also keep track of the length of ad breaks and if too long complain. The other night their app crashed on the same ad twice. I sent them an email and got back the usual canned reply to reset my player to factory. Not gonna happen. The error was an SSL server authentication error meaning it was theirs not mine. Last night I did not see the problem watching a show.

Some shows I can't watch on TV even with Hulu I record the screen on my computer while running an episode. The run a commercial finding app and use the EDL log to create chapters I can insert in a MKV version of the file. Ad comes up hit "next" to skip.

For "Aquarius" they targeted me with ads for expensive cars, watches and booze. Boy do they have me tagged wrong.

On 06/04/2015 10:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote:




---In [email protected], <noozguru@...> wrote :

The easiest way to skew your online profile is to use Google as a dictionary and encyclopedia. Apparently they never figured on people doing that but I wind up looking up things that I have absolutely no interest in buying. Hence by profile is worthless. :-D

I also installed BlueHell Firewall on Firefox which can easily be turned off and on. There were a few sites I regularly visited where their ad scripts would hang the browser or ad delivery be so late that as I was typing in a reply on a forum the focus would get taken away from the message pane. Very annoying. Now some sites won't deliver you content if an ad blocker is on. There are other sites who know how to embed ads even with the ad blocker on. And CBS now won't play a video with the ad blocker on.

I have only encountered one of these and I promptly left it. I get a polite request to turn it off occasionally but there's no point as I'm the sort of person who makes a conscious decision to never buy a product from a company that has annoyed me even slightly.

I doubt anyone really clicks on ads with enough frequency to make all the palaver worthwhile, so why bother unless they actually believe ads sink deep into the unconscious and we'll one day be walking past a shop that sells some crappy piece of junk Google found for me because I was trying to buy my Dad a birthday present on Amazon.

But the research says that targetted ads are twice as effective as non-targetted ones. So people will have to put up with it or install adblocker. If everyone does though I think there will be more sites that won't let you on with it.

I think they've only themselves to blame, advertising got so intrusive I could put up with it no more. Some people I know aren't interested in blocking them though and are happy if it pays for the web to be free. I've always been anti-advert and never watch them on TV ever. The modern world would grind to a halt if everyone was like me. I'm a har! d sell.


I've experimented with ads on my sites and the reality is that you will only get about 2% will even click on an ad thus producing revenue. But with the bankstas crushing the world into poverty people are desperate for any revenue they can get.

Consumerism must die as it's fueled by a belief in infinite growth which is something we don't have on a finite planet. I'm just playing my part in saving the world!

    On 06/03/2015 11:10 PM, salyavin808 wrote:




---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote :

I hate this trend that I'm sure advertisers just love of signing in to one account (like, HuffPo) by using another (facebook). I've last facebook since they're just another arm of Madison Avenue and the NSA. If a site is good enough to warrant my membership, I will just give them a unique username and a unique password (thank you, Lastpass) and register it with my throw away email address.

What I don't like is when they ask for extra information like friend lists. Couldn't be any more blatant could they?

There's probably some algorithm running that puts you all on advertisers hot lists but how much use am I to them? And I used to regularly do google searches on things like lawnmowers and geriatric commodes and see how fast my targetted adverts on Facebook would change. Putting a false age and sex helps confuse it too. I was a 100 year old Sikh woman when I joined Facebook and got some highly odd adverts that I didn't follow up.

I finally I got fed up with adverts interrupting videos and installed the Chrome adblock add-on. The net is just about perfect now. I'm surprised it's even legal.


I'm considering creating a false ID for online use with fake name and other demographics and run it through a VPN exiting in Sweden instead of the US. Use it from a machine where I change the mac address daily and the browser is run in a virtual machine hosting a Linux distro.



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