Mine of course.
From: "Bhairitu [email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Ol' Deepak
"The researchers found that adherents to conspiracy theories are highly
receptive to claims that support their views and rarely engage with social
media pages that question their beliefs."
Of course the same can be said for those who believe their version of "the
truth" is the correct one. And much of the time those who've been tricked into
calling anyone questioning of an "official story" a "conspiracy theorist"
haven't even bothered to explore the so-called "conspiracy theories" mostly
because they're afraid of what they might learn. Otherwise they just desire to
be an average Joe who believes what their leaders say for some reason.
There are over 7 billion versions of "the truth" out there. Which one is the
"correct one?" :-D
On 06/05/2015 12:54 AM, TurquoiseBee [email protected] [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
THIS is why Chopra and other nutcases like him (including several on this
forum) still exist. The audiences they preach to don't have the intelligence
to figure out they're being preached to (and taken advantage of) by idiots.
(cf. recent bogus "research" about light)
Facebook conspiracy theorists fooled by even the most obvious anti-science
trolling: study
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From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 7:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Ol' Deepak
---In [email protected], <s3raphita@...> wrote :
What Deepak is promoting is a philosophy - a theology, maybe - or perhaps "a
metaphysics" is a better term. I don't have any problem with that. His views
could be wrong of course but to demand that all explanations of life, the
universe and everything must conform to scientific methodology is simply
scientism. In fact, the very idea that all explanations must conform to
scientific methodology *is* a metaphysical assumption! How could you prove that
assumption using the techniques of science? How falsify it?
Yes, if you're talking about evolution or quantum physics you have to
accommodate the latest thinking of scientists who have specialised in those
fields but it's legitimate to tease out the implications for our worldview.
By the way: I've only ever read one of Deepak's books and it was pretty
tedious and shallow. But that's a different issue altogether.
Why would he release only one shallow and tedious book do you think?
"His views could be wrong of course but to demand that all explanations of
life, the universe and everything must conform to scientific methodology is
simply scientism."
Isn't "scientism" that thing that creationists invented to try and turn the
demanding of proof into an optional extra?
Like you, I don't think there's anything wrong with speculative thinking, we
simply wouldn't have an ideas at all without it. Where Deepak goes wrong is
that he can't be bothered to check whether his ideas have any sort of validity.
And by that I mean whether they fit in with what is known to be possible in
the physical world and if they don't, how come? Any rewriting of majorly well
tested ideas requires an understanding of those ideas and a demonstration of
where they are inadequate. I don't think it's just a case of accepting things
because they might be possible anymore. I know it's the "vedic" way, as is
misappropriating other people's research to repackage religious ideas in the
hope that your audience is familiar enough with the terms to recognise them but
not familiar enough to know they are being used incorrectly. Anything he says
with the word "quantum" in it for instance.
He just doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.You simply can't have a
worldview whereby something that is known to happen, or to have happened is
contradicted by your metaphysical outlook. Not and remain credible. It has to
all fit together doesn't it? Otherwise our theory of everything will be a
theory of nearly everything and some other stuff that doesn't fit. So Deepak
is either hopelessly ignorant or wilfully misleading - unless he knows
something fundamental to the running of the universe that no one else has
worked out and he acquired the knowledge somehow instinctively rather than via
the usual methods of trial and error testing and refining. Given our shared
opinion of him, I wonder which is most likely?
'This is what drives people nuts about the new quasi-religious quantum
nutjobbery of the internet. Without an editor it's a dangerous place to try
going to learn things. Every idea should stand or fall based on it's evidence
but too many people are forgetting to do the background checks. It's actually
interesting watching the speed with which memes evolve on the net. I used to
work for a company that could track press releases via webpages, be
interesting to watch how far and fast an idea like some of Deepak's or say,
the Maharishi Effect, could travel in a given time and what is needed as a
framework for people to recognise it as a possibility and pass it on.
Maybe the next step in advertising is seeding the social media background
with stupid ideas and then tailoring a campaign to exploit them. Or is
Facebook already doing that?
---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote :
Scientist: Why Deepak Chopra is driving me crazy
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