Supposedly at the time the war lords in the middle east were constantly fighting not making for a very peaceful place. So Muhammad put together this movement to quell the war lords and end the worship of multiple deities (each warlord with their own).

Of course now we have the war lords of the USA, Israel, ISIS, etc. stirring up things there. The first two worship money and the third is either a fad or a military PSYOP using crazy people.

On 06/06/2015 04:28 PM, [email protected] [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Re “If you go and read the Koran, sit back, afterwards, then honestly ask yourself: what would Muhammad want?” says Harris.":


If Islam had remained a small cult in Mecca and someone today became curious about their beliefs and so read through The Koran (I've read it twice) the impression left would be that Muhammad was extremely intolerant of other beliefs. A classical liberal he most certainly was not.

Apologists for Islam point out that at the time Muhammad was engaged in open warfare between his own followers and others, like Jews, Christians and pagans, so picking up on those passages which reveal his closed mind is like criticizing anti-German propaganda during the Second World War. There's something to be said for that but the sheer relentlessness of his constant talk of unbelievers roasting in Hell does suggest someone with issues.

There is a strange, incantatory poetry about some passages and I've little doubt that Muhammad did have a genuine spiritual experience ("Allah is Nearer to Man than his Jugular Vein") and he did wish to see a united community at peace. But it's a dangerous book.

I shall be getting Sam Harris's latest title when it becomes available.




---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

of a larger 'otherness', outside of rational-conscious experience: consciousness.


 ..his father came from a Quaker background.


Harris looks to eastern religion — Buddhism, and more specifically, the mediation practice of mindfulness — as a way of finding a sense of otherness, outside of rational-conscious experience.


In this view, he explains, consciousness itself is identical to the very thing one might otherwise mistake for God.


The main problem, Harris believes, is that the issue is far greater than simply containing radical ideas from a handful of Muslim extremists.


“If you go and read the Koran, sit back, afterwards, then honestly ask yourself: what would Muhammad want?” says Harris.


“You can call this idea Islamism, Muslim extremism, Islamic terrorism, but the main point is this: it’s Islamic to the core. We [in the West] are not at war with generic extremism. We are at war with a death cult that is animated by a 7th-century approach to Islam.”




---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :


Atheist writer bravely disses Islam.


He seems confused about who the aggressors are in the Israeli conflict though. Anyone would think that the Palestinians don't have the right to try and get their land back that was stolen from them in 1948, and more every year since.


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