From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 3:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Everything is Information
Xeno,
No. The point is that the universe functions as information in a virtual
reality. It also means that Consciousness or the unified field is the main
computer (the CPU) that runs this virtual reality. Logic would tell you that
this virtual reality or information can't create itself. It has to be created
by Somebody, which is Consciousness.
How do you get from 'unified field' to 'consciousness' to 'somebody', all with
capital starting letters? 'Unified field' in science is a physical construct.
Logic can only process what you know, it doesn't tell you anything unless you
plug in values. You are surmising that virtual reality or information must have
some sort of creation process behind them. Why does it have to be a somebody?
Consciousness is not a somebody.
As the creator, it is only logical that Consciousness is the source of
everything. As such, It has the quality of the Observer, the Process of
Observing, and the Observed. Why? Because there is nobody else present. It
is the Prime Mover. IOW, It attains the dynamic nature of the unified field,
the samhita of the Rishi-Devata-Chandas.
We know things because we are conscious, but that is far cry from it being the
source of everything. If a light shines on an object in a dark room, then the
object becomes visible, but one has to assume that the light and room and the
object already existed, and the fact the light made us see it does not mean the
light created the object.
Most scientists are still trapped in the objective universe paradigm. That's
why they have an adverse reaction to the possibility that the universe is run
by a subjective reality, Consciousness or the Unified Field.
I do not know why people always say this. Science is the objective universe
paradigm. Scientists are not trapped in it. It is the modus operandi of
science. A scientist can investigate an autombile crash because the automobile
is objective. Now if the automobile crash were subjective, in subjective space,
and no physical automobile were present, how would they proceed to investigate
the crash?
The observer, observed, and process of observing illustration is to give
temporary meaning to certain experiences people might have if they are seeking
enlightenment. It is in fact also how science works, there is an observer, a
scientist or a machine recording data about an event (like the LHC at CERN),
there is what is observed, and the process of observations takes place in time
from the beginning to the end of the observation.
As far a consciousness is concerned it makes experience possible, but whether
it is active or passive in that observation is another question. A nervous
system seems to be required. And machines make observations and then we, with
our consciousness observe what the machines recorded, but we don't know if the
machine is conscious. If they are not then an observation might take place and
yet that observation would remain forever unknown.
The thing about unity as a spiritual phenomenon is consciousness and the
physical world are not distinct, they are as distinct as they are in ordinary
waking consciousness. It is only on the spiritual path that consciousness and
the physical objective world seem to be different from one another. As you are
speaking here of M's Hindu philosophy, I again re-quote for you from Vasistha,
considered one of the greatest of Indian sages: 'But all this talk about who
created this world and how it was created is intended only for the purpose of
composing scriptures and expounding them: it is not based on truth...
Descriptions of creation, etc., are given in the scriptures for the purpose of
instructing disciples: do not let your mind be coloured by them. When you
realise that which is indicated by the words, then naturally you will abandon
the jugglery of words. In the infinite consciousness itself there is neither an
intention nor the veil of delusion. But, that itself is before you as the
world'.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote :
Interesting. So this means that information rather than consciousness is the
basis of the universe and our experience, that consciousness is an emergent
property of information? Scientists would love this because it makes
consciousness amenable to developing equations to explain its existence.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :
Xeno,
Please, read my recent post to Salyavin regarding this thread. We've talked
about this Information theory the other day. So, I believe it has some merit.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :
The universe is a virtual reality. The main computer is Consciousness, or the
Unified Field. Tom Campbell discusses these ideas in the future of physics and
humanity.
JR,
Yahoo Guidelines: Post Your Own Content. It's Okay to post other things, but
write something about what you think about what you post that is not created by
you instead of letting it stand in for what you think. I rarely watch videos
because it takes more time than scanning text that people write themselves. I
do not usually care what some video says, but I might respond to you if you
write something that supports your view of whatever you are interested in.
Why do YOU think the universe is a virtual reality? What is a virtual reality?
How can consciousness BE a computer? Those questions are implied in what you
briefly wrote.
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