--- In [email protected], "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.themystic.org/print/dark-night.htm > > good decsription including some points that were not in my own > experience. Tom T (not Tom Paul)
It also strikes me that some of what this page describes has many of the same features as clinical depression. It makes me wonder whether there may be instances in which someone is diagnosed as depressed when in fact what they're experiencing is this "neither here or there" state MMY refers to--if not as a function of a specific spiritual practice, perhaps simply as a matter of spontaneous evolution of consciousness. In this same light, it may be of interest that quite a few of the former, now strenuously anti-TMers who used to post to alt.meditation.transcendental would repeatedly claim they quit TM because they had begun to experience life as empty and meaningless and had become deeply miserable. Is it possible that at least some of them--many had been long-term TMers--were actually going through this "dark night" experience, having evolved to the "neither here nor there" point but without the necessary intellectual understanding to recognize that it was happening because they were on the brink of CC? Ah, I found the other bit of commentary from MMY I had been thinking of; it follows IV:40: "As the practice of Karma Yoga [TM, in this context] advances, one begins to feel one's Self as separate from activity. This experience brings with it a feeling of confusion. One finds onself active and yet inwardly one feels somewhat aloof from activity. "Doubts begin to arise in the mind, and the intellect seeks for some explanation of the situation....Without proper understanding, even the direct experience of eternal freedom may be found to create confusion and fear." Could this "confusion and fear" be related to the "dark night of the soul" experience? Tom, would you be inclined to say something about your experiences along these lines? (Or anybody else?) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
