---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote :
Would you have the same laissez faire attitude about Robin if he set up shop again recruiting followers to gain enlightenment? Well, for one thing that would never happen and if it did I'd be the first one to sign up. Knowing what I do now, just think of the fun I could have. Playing is so much more fun than smacking someone down. I already did that. Sal and I have clearly explained our position of such TM related hucksterism, but you have not said why you think they should be given a free pass. I have explained how I feel so many times here now that for sure you have to be getting tired of it. But, in a nutshell, I'll try to make it clear one more time. It is not about giving something a pass, MJ, what it is for me is allowing others the freedom, the choice, to choose to pursue something or not without becoming heavy handed in pounding them with my opinion about it. Virtually everyone here at FFL chose TM at one time or another. Every one of us emerged with experiences as unique as we are individuals. Some are still meditating but have abandoned the Movement. Others, like myself, stopped meditating a long time ago. Still others, like yourself, feel it incumbent on themselves to warn the planet against giving the Movement a single dime. All well and good. Who is right and who is deluded? You believe the TM Movement to be shady and out to steal people's money. I believe some of that to be true but I also believe TM has done a lot of good for many individuals so for me to give them a "free pass" is based on this and it isn't "free" anyway. I take issue with some of the stuff that is passed off as necessary or true but, remember, I left MIU in 1980 and after that I had nothing to do with the Movement (other than being banned from all things TM including being allowed on campus) so I know little of the later schemes and scams and politics. In addition, I don't care. Sorry, but I don't. I have taken on other causes, concerned myself with different things I think are important and trying to talk anyone who is thinking of starting TM or of enrolling their child at MUM out of it is not one of those things. But, hey, go for it but at the same time give me the space to not think this necessary in the way you or Sal does. I liked MIU, I liked being given a mantra to meditate with, I enjoyed my time with others who meditated but I moved on. You had a different experience than I did. And why do you not extend your let all do as they please philosophy to folks like Sal and myself? MJ, I have only said that you sounded like a broken record not that you were not justified in feeling the way you do. In fact, if you actually look back at my posts to and about you, you will see that I have been a supporter of yours because I know what asshats some of those in power can be even though I was never the brunt of it (other than my banishment, but who cares?). I certainly didn't. In fact, it was a kind of badge of honor, a joke even. So carry on, but if I play devil's advocate sometimes or don't agree with your approach then you'll have to deal with it if you read my posts. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All ---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote : It is her TM fantasy proclivities I don't care for, plus the fact that she is setting herself up, with Oprah's help as a life coach!?!?! With what training? And how do you get a session with her? You can't - she is doing all this pr to sell her upcoming book and whatever other nostrums, bangles, baubles and gewgaws she will sell in the future. You and Doug love to blabber about what a fine place Fairfield is, I would think if you really love the place you would be hesitant to see another huckster move into town - but if you still revere Marshy, I shouldn't be surprised. Why attack Feste? He's just having some fun with you, MJ. Again, screw TM and screw the bullshit let's take advantage of everybody we can mentality it often breeds. She got all her problems solved with 20 minutes of TM, and now she is living her dream life by selling a book? About what? According to her pr it is about: telling other women how "to live the life she wants, set her own rules, become naturally more attractive and in the process, uplift herself and the world" Who the fuck is she to be giving advice to other women? Based on what? Two years of TM? MJ, it is pretty funny. Take a look at her and just have a laugh. There's someone putting out their spiritual shingle every five minutes. She's just one more. If her blabber about TM is her truth, then the only substantive advice she can give women is do TM? They need to pre-order a book to hear that? And if she has a bunch of other stuff to offer it means TM is not the panacea she claims it is. She is just another TM huckster - there have been many and she is just the latest in a long line, getting help from the TM people and Oprah. Without them, she wouldn't have shit for a venue to hawk her nostrums. Is this TM's fault? I think she's quite the entrepreneur, myself. It doesn't appeal to me, any of it, but hey, let her psycho babble her way to fame and fortune. She appears pretty narcissistic to me. What harm is it all doing you? I predict that she is one of those who claim to be fabulously happy on the outside with all kinds of snakes crawling around in her head. She will crash and burn like most of them do, just like that psychotic Jim Carrey is doing. From: feste37 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All If you don't care for beautiful women, what about her dog, then? ---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote : Not for all the tea in China From: feste37 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All But wouldn't you like to date her, MJ? ---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote : Same gal, different interview - look at how they are presenting TM, as if it cures everything in the world - this is the kind of pr that is both misleading and ultimately harmful to people who don't know anything about meditation or TM specifically. 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