Again, the welfare recipients are the victims of capitalism. Economic models of capitalism always predict less than 100% employment. I recall the "ideal" is around 95%, so for that unemployed 5%, they need some form of assistance. Given the radical difference in access to education and services between the wealthy and the poor, it is nearly impossible to rise out of poverty, no matter what, so this may span generations.
Again, it is not the fault of the poor, but rather the blindly greedy, who see only exploitable numbers when they look at a population. You sound as if you have bought into the social fiction that people want to be poor. They do not, even with the paltry amounts that welfare pays. Rather than do away with welfare for the poor, let's begin by eliminating welfare for the rich. Much is made by these folks about the amount of taxes they pay relative to the rest of the country. However, the amount they pay, relative to their wealth, is a pittance, and they should all be deeply ashamed of themselves. There is no benefit to the class war they have started and it will end badly for them - not in terms of some grand revolution, but simply their increasingly bad karma. Read the news carefully regarding the greediest members of our society, and you find that despite enormous wealth, many of their lives are stressful, unhealthy, and short. Money cannot buy happiness, only comfy distractions. ---In [email protected], <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : So, I guess that you would agree that welfare/ public assistance should not be a *lifestyle*, from one generation to another, but temporary. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary! ---In [email protected], <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In [email protected], <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : If something is worth having, it's worth working for. That would include economic equality and opportunity. Should a high school drop out have the same economic opportunities that someone with a PHD has? Should a person with no more ability to flip a burger earn as much as a brain surgeon? It could happen, but they better have something to offer that is in high demand. I can honestly say that I've earned everything I've got. Had I been more ambitious,I could have had more than I have now. I'm not complaining. You are assuming that hard work equals reward commensurate with effort exerted. Not so. It would be so simple if that were the case. Many, many people literally work their asses off and have no home, very little food to eat and live in rags. The world does not work like how you think it works. There is inequality with regard to race, gender and class that takes its toll on millions of people. I have known a number of well-heeled individuals who like to recline back in their easy chairs, glance around at their paneled, ornate living rooms while sipping 25 year old tawny port and smugly assert that if everyone was just willing to work hard they could enjoy the advantages that they enjoy. Bullshit. Knocked that one out of the park. It doesn't take any esteemed values, such as compassion and equality, to make a lot of money. No one is saying give it back, but own up to what got you there. In these times, due to the leverage of tech, money buys more influence than it ever has. Unfortunately, many use that as an excuse to become ever richer, consequences be damned. The rich DO get richer and the poor get poorer. This crap about people wanting to lie around on welfare, vs. having productive and meaningful jobs is propaganda put out by those who have already shipped many of the middle class jobs outside the US. Blame the victim. From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary! Capitalism promotes greed and inequality. Socialism provides equality and equal opportunity. How's that inequality workin' out for ya? On 10/21/2015 05:44 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Capitalism creates wealth, socialism just redistributes it. From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary! The problem with capitalism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money too. Then everybody is broke. What's your point? On 10/21/2015 05:00 PM, Mike Dixon mailto:[email protected]@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The problem with socialism is, that sooner or later, you run out of other people's money. From: "Bhairitu mailto:[email protected]@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary! What's happening is that the dems are freaked by the traction Bernie Sanders is getting. He's also popular with millennials who could swing the vote. I also have a theory Sanders is the reason Trump jumped into the race. So it could be an election of democratic socialism vs corporatism. Thing is, the US needs some socialism to balance things. All corporatists care about is making lots and lots of money and the public be damned. I've listened to Sanders on Thom Hartmann's show for years and he is a very reasonable person so it won't be the new Soviet Union by a any means. Hillary is too "status quo" with lots of skeletons in her closet. On 10/21/2015 07:22 AM, mailto:[email protected]@... mailto:hepa7@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Whatthree psychics told us will happen in the 2016 election https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/06/22/what-three-psychics-told-us-will-happen-in-the-2016-election/ Whatthree psychics told us will happen in the 2016 elec... We asked three psychics to spoil the next 16 months for us (for entertainment purposes only, of course). View on http://www.was/www.was http://www.was/... Preview by Yahoo
