Interesting article on Molenbeek: Molenbeek broke my heart http://www.politico.eu/article/molenbeek-broke-my-heart-radicalization-suburb-brussels-gentrification/ http://www.politico.eu/article/molenbeek-broke-my-heart-radicalization-suburb-brussels-gentrification/ Molenbeek broke my heart http://www.politico.eu/article/molenbeek-broke-my-heart-radicalization-suburb-brussels-gentrification/ A former resident reflects on his struggles with Brussels' most notorious neighborhood. View on www.politico.eu http://www.politico.eu/article/molenbeek-broke-my-heart-radicalization-suburb-brussels-gentrification/ Preview by Yahoo
In nations with significant Muslim populations, much disdain for ISIS http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/ In nations with significant Muslim populations, much ... http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/ Most people in the countries we surveyed, including 11 countries with significant Muslim populations, had negative views of Islamic State as of sp... View on www.pewresearch.org http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote : Those who maintain that the majority of Muslims in Europe aren't terrorists are missing the point. We know that most Muslims aren't queuing up to wear a suicide vest but ponder this: in a time of Islamic terror every state has to pay attention to airline security and to monitor those entering the country. But to make your capital city go into lockdown for four days, to impose a virtual curfew and have your troops on the streets - for that you need something else. The something else is to have a district like Molenbeek - the Brussels' suburb - where some areas are up to 80 per cent Muslim. Once you have set up Muslim ghettoes you are screwed. Given that a decent percentage of Muslims do indeed support Islamic State and sharia law and The Caliphate you have effectively given them a safe haven and no-go zone where they can plot mayhem at their leisure. Our political class can't admit that (blindingly obvious) point as it was that very same political class that has presided over the setting up of those ghettoes in the first place. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, there are about seven billion people in this world that would like to have a better life, that would like to have all the comforts that the United States has to offer, it's freedom, security and prosperity. It's not practical to keep taking in the worlds hardship cases. You can only water down the punch so much before it loses it's flavor and then nobody wants it because it has lost it's value. Just as everyone says that we can't be the world's policeman, we can't write the worlds welfare check either , be the world's *orphanage* or right every wrong. We have limited resources and close to twenty trillion dollar debt. Your empathy seems to be limited to inviting hardship cases into your own home and taking care of them instead of helping them fix their own problems so that they can keep what is rightfully theirs. There is no *Life bankruptcy* solution. One doesn't throw in the towel and say let me start over in a another country that is better than mine, one that will meet my every need. I'm sorry that you haven't figured out the concept of *dharma*, the circumstance that life has dealt for you at birth. You'll figure it out one day. BTW, nobody has yet to offer why the Gulf States,with all of their wealth has refused to take in the Syrian refugees. As I said , one of the Great Tenants of Islam is *charity*. Alms, alms, alms for the love of Allah! The Saudi's are the keepers of the faith. Hot Salami n sum bacon tu. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord Re: Re: "I find it cruel to uproot entire populations and plant them in a completely foreign culture." It sounds like you think there is some terrorist conspiracy going to "uproot entire populations" in the middle east and "plant them" in the U.S and Europe. If the refugees were going to any of the countries in Africa, would you take the same position with as much vehemence as you have around refugees coming here? A "population" doesn't migrate on the scale that we've seen for kicks. Who, pray tell, is *taking* them away from their homeland; seems to me the refugees are *choosing* to leave because they fear for their lives and families. Of course they want to go to a country they assume can give them aid and a better life. Wouldn't you? The best thing to do if you empathize with how stressful it could be and if you are worried about refugees adapting is to volunteer yourself to help and get involved. They are coming and I doubt we're going to intern them in camps like we did the Japanese, when national paranoia took hold. Make a difference Mike; you are heading into your twilight years - why sit around being an armchair politician? (P.S. Remember, I never give advice to anyone that I don't give to myself as well.) Oh, but your "dharma" and "karma" landed you here - lucky you! Except that, of course, your ancestor's migrated here as well. Why? Were they being persecuted? In search of a better life? Starving back over there in Europe somewhere? Not allowed to practice their religion? Should they have stayed back in their "culture" and "close to home?" I have been looking up the meaning of the word "dharma." Nowhere do I see a definition that indicates a human being should contain one's life to within the boundaries of the "culture" and "religion" of the region they were born. Not even close. Curiously, what definition are you using? Who, pray tell, is trying to "change their lives with a new culture?" Whaattt?!! Are you making any sense? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, seriously, what does it sound like to you? Have you ever heard the expression( I know you have) *there's no place like home*. Is it really wise and helpful to take people away from everything that they've known and experienced and throw them into something different? Some will adapt well and others not so well and refugee status is not an ideal way to learn. It's a stressful situation. The culture and religion a person is born into is a part of their dharma, their evolutionary path in life. Forcing someone out of that, whether by coercion or predicament invites trouble for them. Instead of swimming down stream , your trying to swim up stream. That's why I say, or at least one reason I say, keep them as close to home as possible. Protect them and help them but don't try to change their lives with a new culture. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord Re: "I find it cruel to uproot entire populations and plant them in a completely foreign culture." Mike, what are you trying to say here? It's an odd statement to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Judy, the 18-19 Saudis that were responsible for 9/11 had been here for a while, some on student visas. Just because you have jihad on the mind doesn't mean you have to act immediately. Terrorist cells can be *planted* and not activated for months or years. And then again, one can come here as a genuine refugee and be turned *to the dark side* later, as a number already have been. Does anyone ever ask why more Gulf States aren't taking in these refugees? They have the money and resources and they would be closer to home. One of the big tenants of Islam is charity. Why isn't Saudi Arabia, home of the prophet, guardian of the faith, doing their *fair share*? I find it cruel to uproot entire populations and plant them in a completely foreign culture. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord The point is, Mike, that there are easier, quicker ways for jihadis to enter the country than as refugees. If they have mayhem on their minds, they're not going to want to wait around for a couple of years while the vetting process takes place just to take advantage of its potential shortcomings. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, do you remember Dzhokhar and Tamerian Tsarnaev? I've done plenty of international travel. You sound pretty naive to me. You actually trust the government to completely vet all of the refugees when they can't. The materials that they need are not available. Records from home towns and other government documents in Syria, including police records have been destroyed in the war or are not available. You don't think documents can be counterfeited? I have no doubt that there are agencies that claim that they can vet them but nobody knows how well it can be done. Hayam Dukham Anagatam. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/ In nations with significant Muslim populations, much ... http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/ Most people in the countries we surveyed, including 11 countries with significant Muslim populations, had negative views of Islamic State as of sp... View on www.pewresearch.org http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote : Those who maintain that the majority of Muslims in Europe aren't terrorists are missing the point. We know that most Muslims aren't queuing up to wear a suicide vest but ponder this: in a time of Islamic terror every state has to pay attention to airline security and to monitor those entering the country. But to make your capital city go into lockdown for four days, to impose a virtual curfew and have your troops on the streets - for that you need something else. The something else is to have a district like Molenbeek - the Brussels' suburb - where some areas are up to 80 per cent Muslim. Once you have set up Muslim ghettoes you are screwed. Given that a decent percentage of Muslims do indeed support Islamic State and sharia law and The Caliphate you have effectively given them a safe haven and no-go zone where they can plot mayhem at their leisure. Our political class can't admit that (blindingly obvious) point as it was that very same political class that has presided over the setting up of those ghettoes in the first place. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, there are about seven billion people in this world that would like to have a better life, that would like to have all the comforts that the United States has to offer, it's freedom, security and prosperity. It's not practical to keep taking in the worlds hardship cases. You can only water down the punch so much before it loses it's flavor and then nobody wants it because it has lost it's value. Just as everyone says that we can't be the world's policeman, we can't write the worlds welfare check either , be the world's *orphanage* or right every wrong. We have limited resources and close to twenty trillion dollar debt. Your empathy seems to be limited to inviting hardship cases into your own home and taking care of them instead of helping them fix their own problems so that they can keep what is rightfully theirs. There is no *Life bankruptcy* solution. One doesn't throw in the towel and say let me start over in a another country that is better than mine, one that will meet my every need. I'm sorry that you haven't figured out the concept of *dharma*, the circumstance that life has dealt for you at birth. You'll figure it out one day. BTW, nobody has yet to offer why the Gulf States,with all of their wealth has refused to take in the Syrian refugees. As I said , one of the Great Tenants of Islam is *charity*. Alms, alms, alms for the love of Allah! The Saudi's are the keepers of the faith. Hot Salami n sum bacon tu. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord Re: Re: "I find it cruel to uproot entire populations and plant them in a completely foreign culture." It sounds like you think there is some terrorist conspiracy going to "uproot entire populations" in the middle east and "plant them" in the U.S and Europe. If the refugees were going to any of the countries in Africa, would you take the same position with as much vehemence as you have around refugees coming here? A "population" doesn't migrate on the scale that we've seen for kicks. Who, pray tell, is *taking* them away from their homeland; seems to me the refugees are *choosing* to leave because they fear for their lives and families. Of course they want to go to a country they assume can give them aid and a better life. Wouldn't you? The best thing to do if you empathize with how stressful it could be and if you are worried about refugees adapting is to volunteer yourself to help and get involved. They are coming and I doubt we're going to intern them in camps like we did the Japanese, when national paranoia took hold. Make a difference Mike; you are heading into your twilight years - why sit around being an armchair politician? (P.S. Remember, I never give advice to anyone that I don't give to myself as well.) Oh, but your "dharma" and "karma" landed you here - lucky you! Except that, of course, your ancestor's migrated here as well. Why? Were they being persecuted? In search of a better life? Starving back over there in Europe somewhere? Not allowed to practice their religion? Should they have stayed back in their "culture" and "close to home?" I have been looking up the meaning of the word "dharma." Nowhere do I see a definition that indicates a human being should contain one's life to within the boundaries of the "culture" and "religion" of the region they were born. Not even close. Curiously, what definition are you using? Who, pray tell, is trying to "change their lives with a new culture?" Whaattt?!! Are you making any sense? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, seriously, what does it sound like to you? Have you ever heard the expression( I know you have) *there's no place like home*. Is it really wise and helpful to take people away from everything that they've known and experienced and throw them into something different? Some will adapt well and others not so well and refugee status is not an ideal way to learn. It's a stressful situation. The culture and religion a person is born into is a part of their dharma, their evolutionary path in life. Forcing someone out of that, whether by coercion or predicament invites trouble for them. Instead of swimming down stream , your trying to swim up stream. That's why I say, or at least one reason I say, keep them as close to home as possible. Protect them and help them but don't try to change their lives with a new culture. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord Re: "I find it cruel to uproot entire populations and plant them in a completely foreign culture." Mike, what are you trying to say here? It's an odd statement to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Judy, the 18-19 Saudis that were responsible for 9/11 had been here for a while, some on student visas. Just because you have jihad on the mind doesn't mean you have to act immediately. Terrorist cells can be *planted* and not activated for months or years. And then again, one can come here as a genuine refugee and be turned *to the dark side* later, as a number already have been. Does anyone ever ask why more Gulf States aren't taking in these refugees? They have the money and resources and they would be closer to home. One of the big tenants of Islam is charity. Why isn't Saudi Arabia, home of the prophet, guardian of the faith, doing their *fair share*? I find it cruel to uproot entire populations and plant them in a completely foreign culture. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord The point is, Mike, that there are easier, quicker ways for jihadis to enter the country than as refugees. If they have mayhem on their minds, they're not going to want to wait around for a couple of years while the vetting process takes place just to take advantage of its potential shortcomings. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, do you remember Dzhokhar and Tamerian Tsarnaev? I've done plenty of international travel. You sound pretty naive to me. You actually trust the government to completely vet all of the refugees when they can't. The materials that they need are not available. Records from home towns and other government documents in Syria, including police records have been destroyed in the war or are not available. You don't think documents can be counterfeited? I have no doubt that there are agencies that claim that they can vet them but nobody knows how well it can be done. Hayam Dukham Anagatam.
