Lots of people voted for Obama including Republicans in 2008. They had a bad taste in their mouth after the Bush Crime Family held office. McCain and his joke of a VP were allowed to run because the GOP knew they couldn't win.

In 2012 people didn't vote for Obama but voted against Romney. They were disappointed that Obama didn't do what he said. Like I always say, Presidents are really just like the late night car salesmen on TV. Most of the lots are owned by someone else and they're just the spokesmen. They say that Jimmy Carter cried when he took office and was told what he could not do by the guys behind the curtain. JFK was the last President who held strong on his promises and see what it got him.

Democracy in the US is a farce.

On 12/27/2015 11:34 AM, emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

No, "Obama" did not. Yes, he nominates (not appoints) members. Per Politifact:

"It’s not Obama’s NLRB," said William Gould, who chaired the labor board for over four years during the Clinton administration and is now a law professor at Stanford Law School. Gould disagreed with the NLRB decision to open hearings against Boeing but says the White House would be far removed from those activities.

"It’s an independent quasi-judicial administrative agency," Gould said. "I am sure that the White House had absolutely nothing to do with this. During my 53-plus months, we never heard anything from the White House."

Indeed, we could find no evidence that the White House intervened. The president’s spokesman, Jay Carney, told reporters "this was not something the president was involved in."

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

You left out a couple of other conditions as to why it is cheaper to do business overseas. Not just government regulation but also taxation and Unions. Union demands have been unreasonable in many cases. Many unions make so many demands that businesses just find it worthwhile to shut down here and reopen in a foreign country and ship their products back here. Unions drove the textile industry out of the US and overseas many years ago. The same is going for various other manufacturing industries. Who was it, Boeing, that wanted to move their operations from Washington state to North or South Carolina where they would be in a right to work state. As far as I remember Obama put a stop to that.

*From:* "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:32 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

No, the rope in this tug-a-war just needs to be pulled to a little too the left. It's gone too far right and so far into the hands of the 0.001%. Even a lot "conservatives" dislike that. You seem to be one of the few still stuck in this "rich good, poor bad" Tarzan think that 0.001%'er Rupert Murdoch promotes.

And Mike, the guy I do some software projects for started outsourcing several years ago. It had nothing to do with government regulations because software development is pretty much "hands off" when it comes to government. It's just that the cost of living in some of these countries is lower and so these companies can charge far less for a project yet their workers still live well. The high cost of living in the US is out of whack and artificial due to credit. Economists will tell you the last time it was in balance was the mid 1970s. Back then you could still earn minimum wage yet enjoy life.

On 12/27/2015 08:08 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... <mailto:mdixon.6569@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:

    Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire
    Democratic party is advocating socialism without using the word.
    Bernzie being the exception. They all want the same thing, total
    government control by taxation or regulation.
    Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's
    point of view.
    You're not in favor of *handouts* but.... we don't hand out
    enough. Right!
    Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US
    due to government regulation, taxation and union demands, more
    Democratic meddling.

    *From:* "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]"
    *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
    *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
    *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

    "the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say,
    Raul Castro of Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has
    advocated, or worse, acted on, such an ideological vision? I am
    pretty confident I can wait here for days without a name from
    you, even down to the level of city dogcatcher, because *they
    don't exist*.

    Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the
    color of his skin. His concern over the demise of social programs
    is well founded, when our previous President advocated the
    destruction of Social Security. "Put it all in the stock market",
    he and his cronies said, and he would have, but he had no mandate
    from Congress. A good thing, as we would have had millions in the
    street when the market crashed.

    I am not in favor of handouts, but the current Republican
    domestic philosophy, and tax policy, seems to be, "I got mine,
    screw you", justified on the basis of some waste and corruption
    wrt social services programs. A very cold-hearted way of
    thinking, and obviously biased when no such scrutiny is applied
    to say, military programs, or corporate welfare.

    The Republicans scream about losing American jobs, while
    advocating constantly for ways to ship jobs overseas. It is
    ironic that the only thing keeping our economy afloat are all the
    cheap products from China, the Far Left, Communist nation, on
    which our continued prosperity depends. Calling Obama "far left"
    is quite funny from that perspective, as it is the Republicans
    who are driving us further into China's hands.

    ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
    <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <awoelflebater@...>
    <mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :

    ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
    <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mdixon.6569@...>
    <mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

    Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume
    that, because a person in congress opposes the policies of the
    *far left*, that they are racist and that they oppose those
    policies because the person implementing them has dark skin. How
    simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to
    believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and
    trying to absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year,
    the excuses will be that we need a *woman* to lead the country
    and if elected and she faces any resistance, it will be because
    she's female in a patriarchal society. This is meant to appeal to
    the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal to
    the emotions of the ignorant.
     Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty
    higher than ever, that black unemployment levels are the highest
    in decades, more people are on government assistance than ever.
    Damn the fact that our current president has more than doubled
    the national debt of all other presidents before him with nothing
    to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That
    money generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.
    Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories
    back to our enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable
    allies don't trust the word of our leaders. That once dangerous
    terrorists that had been locked up have been returned to the
    battle field to continue killing again.
     Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come
    here, without due process, driving down wages for our own
    citizens, while subsidizing the substandard wages of the *
    illegal immigrants* with government social program hand outs that
    cost all other tax payers.
     Damn the fact that because of him,  the people have put more
    Republicans in office than any time since the end of the civil
    war with nothing to show for it because they fear being labeled
    *racist* and give him just about anything he wants including
    another trillion dollar plus budget this year.
     Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these low
    information voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any
    one with a brain can figure out that the purpose of these
    policies is to bring about a complete collapse of the current
    social and economic system in place and replacing it with the
    purest form of socialism which will not redistribute wealth but
    redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish
    for. The *right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so
    much of the left's shenanigans.

    This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that
    scares the bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that
    you claim those "on the right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't
    lessening this feeling I have. That's all America needs, is a
    bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from their
    villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to
    unaffordable health and dental) and screaming for banishment of
    those seeking asylum in the US and to rid the country of
    "socialistic" programs. You live in a dreamworld, Mike. Not one
    thing you say here is, I believe, true but it sure gives me a
    glimpse into one mindset present day US residents have and it is
    fear driven.

    *From:* "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]"
    *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
    *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2015 4:03 AM
    *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

    Please put me on your list too. Barack Obama is one of our better
    Presidents. I find it appalling that the many racists in the US
    Congress see fit to obstruct him, simply because of the color of
    his skin. Anyway, just for you old white racists, I would LOVE it
    if we had another black man (or a black woman for a change) for
    President, only this time, two black parents, and that beautiful
    dark, dark skin and full lips. I hope whomever it is, they give
    you a big bear hug, a wet kiss on the cheek, and knock that silly
    pillow case off your pointed little head.

    Merry Christmas to you, and in the TRUE spirit of Jesus Christ,
    May God Bless Barack Hussein Obama!!!

    ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
    <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <emptybill@...>
    <mailto:emptybill@...> wrote :

    */Someone's "principle political view" is irrelevant if their
    personhood stinks./**/

    /**That iswhat shills like**//**Oprah claimed about “The One”.
    Only he was /not/ presented as a “stinking personhood” but rather
    as a unifying saint. *
    *This is why Em’ likes him … wondrous /Barack Osama/, the great
    divider. He is the epitomee of the political liar – promising to
    unite all while following the plan of Saul Alinsky (Radical
    Marxist/Apostate Jew): *
    */“Lest we /**/forget/**/at least an over-the-shoulder
    acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends,
    mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves
    off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical
    known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so
    effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”/*
    */“What follows is for those who want to change the world from
    what it is to what they believe it should be. The Prince
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince> was written by
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli> for the
    Haves on how to hold power. /**Rules for Radicals**/is written
    for the Have-Nots on how to take it away."/*
    */Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky/***
    *Chanukistani proly double votes … both Canadian and US
    elections. What do you expect from a dual? Em’ proly votes for
    whomever sounds most neo-Marxist. *
    *I say - /hypocrite swine/ … give up your possessions and give it
    all away. Problem is the swine only want to give away other
    people’s rights and possessions. *
    *Don’t worry though - Hillary will show them! *
    *After all, she’s a self-professed lover of Alinsky too. *

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