--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 11, 2005, at 11:28 AM, cardemaister wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Dec 11, 2005, at 4:24 AM, cardemaister wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> SS I 7: > >>> > >>> jaagratsvapnasuSuptabhede turyaabhogasaMbhavaH > >>> (jaagrat; svapna; suSupta-bhede turya-aabhoga-saMbhavaH) > >>> > >>> This is my "own" translation: > >>> > >>> In the gap (bhede) [between] waking (jaagrat), > >>> dreaming (svapna) [and] deep sleep (suSupta) > >>> "is born" (saMbhavaH = birth) enjoyment (aabhoga, > >>> also e.g. "fullness") of the Transcendental Consciousness > >>> (turya = fourth). > >>> > >>> Does that make any sense? > >> > >> The entire first section of the Shiva-sutra describes Shambhava > >> upaya--the yoga of spontaneous manifestation of the I- > > consciousness > >> of Shiva, and the sudden emergence of the individual experience > >> "Shivoham" (or "udyamo bhairava" I:5), "I am Shiva". It is the > >> "highest" (read: most direct) of all three upayas in this agama. > > This > >> means that this presence of spontaneous I-consciousness of Shiva is > > a > >> witness which runs continuously and uninterruptedly through all > > three > >> states of consciousness. This is not mere "saksi" (witness- > >> consciousness) but Ishvara-Saksi -- God-witness. In fact, it's not > >> the same witness as in Shankara at all, it is vimarsha (world- > > mirror) > >> which is filled with the bhoga (ecstasy) of turiya. > >> > >> Abhoga = Camatkara > >> > > > > That's interesting - and, well, surprising! > > BTW, I just noticed that "turyaabhoga" > > could in priciple be sandhi for (at least) > > "turya + aa_bhoga" (enjoyment) and "turya + > > a_bhoga" (non-enjoyment). That's an example of how > > for instance sandhi of 'a' makes Sanskrit texts > > ambiguous. > > Also why a sutra always requires an enlightened commentary--in this > case the Vimarshini.
Sorry, I don't actually quite understand what you mean by "abhoga = camatkara". ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Ever feel sad or cry for no reason at all? Depression. Narrated by Kate Hudson. http://us.click.yahoo.com/CQDrNC/ubOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/