Well Yes, it is about being Equally American: each person with one vote, and with well regulated arms, in one army, gender neutral and all with first amendment rights.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote : Some how, I take this as a pitch not to register men or women. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Women Should be Drafted into the Military No, this is throwing the hypothetical as your best pitch that is like the pitch of old slave interests coming up with excuses to retain the institution of slavery, ..that African races should need to be looked after because they can’t do it for themselves. ..for their own safety. No it is an old thinking of a special conservatism to hold back a humanity from progressing in expansion of civil liberty and enfranchising basic human rights of freedom. ..but false myths set forth and frequently repeated: http://www.icelandichorse.info/daggsformerslavesuccessstory.html http://www.icelandichorse.info/daggsformerslavesuccessstory.html I love this picture, the grandson of a slave.. free Ira needed no master.. http://www.icelandichorse.info/irahallmilliondollarsmilejpeg.jpg http://www.icelandichorse.info/irahallmilliondollarsmilejpeg.jpg Liberty, equality, fraternity. In our American armed forces, if men are to be registered for the draft, register women equally. In principle we will all be better for it. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote : Not an insult to women. More like an insult to men. Men in combat could be overly protective of female comrades to the point of it being a distraction. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Women Should be Drafted into the Military Om, you are being very severe of the female sex here. I know plenty of farm women you would not want to wrestle with. They'd do plenty good digging fox holes or being behind a gun sight too. Our US army should be an equal opportunity employer. Absolutely. Register and Draft women too if it comes to a draft. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote : Well, if everyone played by the rules. Serious people intent on having their way when it comes to war say *screw* the rules, I'm gonna win! I'm sending 100% of my best men against their mixed, politically correct, defenses. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2016 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Women Should be Drafted into the Military That keeping women out of armies and war is cultural, the use of scriptural argument to accomplish that is just patrician hocus. The keeping of women human beings out of war is mostly about protecting property. There would be fewer wars if everyone should be drafted in to them. Let our standing armies be demographically balanced. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Breaking clean with the norm, "..to escape what she later described as the “sphere prescribed by nature and custom to the female sex,” “I could not understand why I had not thought of my plan for nearly two years. My grief-stricken mother now described woman's lot in even more horrific colors. Martial ardor flared in my soul with incredible force; my mind swarmed with dreams, and I began searching actively for means to realize my previous intentions: to become a warrior and and a son to my father and to part company forever from the sex whose sad lot and eternal dependence had begun to terrify me. I became absorbed in my own thoughts: and so I am at liberty. Free! Independent! I have taken the freedom that is rightfully mine – that is a precious gift from heaven, the inalienable prerogative of every human being! I have found a way to take it and guard it from all future claims against it; from now until my grave it will be my portion and my reward!” Jai! Jai! -Nadezhda Durova ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelfleba...@yahoo.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Women should never be in combat for the very reasons you mention.What I find confounding though is why would women, who advocate pacifism, nonviolence, anti war etc. even propose that women should be drafted? It seems that *anything you can do, I can do better* over rides reason. For me, I certainly wouldn't want to go fight in any war or be subjected to life-threatening aggression from a host of others who want to kill me via bullet, bomb or land mine but to imply that women should be spared this due to some reason having to do with their gentler natures and their need to raise the kiddies at home is just plain silly. Personally, I believe men to be a tad more war-mongering and aggressive, in general, than women but their ability and courage in combat is not superior to a woman's. Women are bloody brutal when they have a mind to be and are certainly as courageous and determined as any man given a reason to be. But, if you guys want to start and fight the wars, be my guest - although it seems a pity so much time and life is wasted on such pursuits. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R79yYo2aOZs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R79yYo2aOZs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R79yYo2aOZs The 'Right' to Have Babies - Monty Python's 'The Life of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R79yYo2aOZs View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R79yYo2aOZs Preview by Yahoo Of course they have. You ask what kind of person, would go off and do that? Even dress the part to get to go along to war? Someone yearning of adventure, an itching to get to see. On similar impulse and calculation, I know someone, a young girl who dressed the part of a young boy to be able to join in re-enacting war where women were not allowed in battle re-enacting units (..because it was assumed and normative rules said that women of course were not fighting in the wars and therefore should not be out on the 're-enactment' battle fields..). This young girl figured out how to stand like a young guy, dropped her voice, flatten her features, had a uniform like everyone else, shared the privations like everyone else, could do the manual of arms as good as or better than everyone else. Looked quite authentic to the role to the point of being invited in with really crack infantry units going in to battle. She did it for some years in infantry units without it being known to any along in her mess. Shared all the exertion of it. Was really good at and loved the craft itself of soldiering and being part of something with others and having that special comradeship that can come from it. War is also social and is a young person's game. Some just wonder about it and go to see. Some have initiative while others just stay home. Of course women have been in combat. There is a famous scene of an American woman taking on the raking firing of a cannon as the gun crew had been shot down in our American Revolutionary War against the tyranny of those English. Huzzah. More than just 'going along', scholarship now on the American War of the Rebellion is finding a number of women in the armies then soldiering along. Is there a women wearing a Raja crown and robe sitting on the stage that we don't know about? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Nadezhda Durova The Cavalry Maiden Journals of a Female Russian Officer in the Napoleonic Wars “..In September of that year 1806 Ndezhda Durova (1783-1866), disguised as a boy, ran away from her home in the foothills of the Ural mountains and joined the Russian cavalry. That she could do so is not surprising: women throughout history have been swept up in war. Durova, however, is exceptional among them in her determination to escape what she later described as the “sphere prescribed by nature and custom to the female sex,” in her dedication to the military vocation and, above all, in her gift to posterity of a lengthy account of nine years of service during which she saw combat in the 1807 and 1812-1814 wars against Napoleon.” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Any society that sends its women off to war has got its values all wrong. What sort of man sends his woman to fight his battles for him? Feminism may have achieved many good things, but the notion that women should be allowed in combat is not one of them. And what sort of woman wants to go into combat? Where did she get that idea from? Think about this, ladies: you are in a movie theater with your husband/boyfriend. A crazy guy comes in and starts shooting. What does your man do? He throws himself on top of you or in some other way puts his own body between you and the shooter, that's what he does. It is instinct. All normal men would do this in an instant, without a thought. Men are hard-wired to protect women, not to send them out to the front lines to come home with limbs missing and brains damaged. Women in combat is a terrible idea and should never be allowed to happen.