'Originalism', this becomes a useful critique for distinguishing the religious faith-and-belief-in-Maharishi conservative TM ideologic zealotry of strict preservation on the one hand from progressive practitioner elements on the other hand who in experience would like to see things evolve and work out well for the TM movement.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote : If it's *extremely trying inside the movement" why be bothered? That's why i keep my distance from the TMO. That way,I don't stress them out and they don't stress me out. Why swim in their mess? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Why? Well, on a purely practical level I live here and a lot of my friends live here. I have family that lives here now and we are all affected by how they behave up there. -JaiGuruYou From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 7:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Originalists v Progressive Practitioners, The TM Movement Community I am on my way to a working meeting on campus right now about the movement but this division over ‘originalism’ is a communal rub and scrap in harnessing actionable change in cultural things that have evolved within the TM movement community. It is extremely trying inside the movement right now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : On considering uncompromising and Strict Originalism, like with some strict TM preservationists: “..a static interpretation of the law that doesn't move with the times, doesn't move with the society.” “He (Scalia) was its most fierce proponent I guess I would say, but that didn't mean that he prevailed. Not everybody on the court agreed with him, including many of the conservatives on some issues. And so while he was its principal proponent and theoretician, he didn't win a great deal of the time because he was not a consensus-builder. Other people were more willing to compromise than he was. He would have called that "faux-conservatism."” "The Constitution that I interpret and apply is not living but dead, or as I prefer to call it, enduring. It means today not what current society, much less the court, thinks it ought to mean, but what it meant when it was adopted." -Antonin Scalia Originalism: A Primer On Scalia's Constitutional Philosophy http://www.npr.org/2016/02/14/466744465/originalism-a-primer-on-scalias-constitutional-philosophy http://www.npr.org/2016/02/14/466744465/originalism-a-primer-on-scalias-constitutional-philosophy Originalism: A Primer On Scalia's Constitutional Phi... http://www.npr.org/2016/02/14/466744465/originalism-a-primer-on-scalias-constitutional-philosophy NPR's Nina Totenberg explains how the idea that the Constitution is "not living but dead" transformed the Supreme Court during Antonin Scalia's te... View on www.npr.org http://www.npr.org/2016/02/14/466744465/originalism-a-primer-on-scalias-constitutional-philosophy Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : “Originalism, as defined by Justice Scalia and others, is that what is in the Constitution literally is what the founding fathers meant.” Conservative TM Maharishi Originalism: That Maharishi set it up the way he did as an enlightened soul and teacher, that he knew what he was doing, and it needs to stay that way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : 'Originalism', this becomes a useful critique for distinguishing the religious faith-and-belief-in- Maharishi conservative TM ideologic zealotry on the one hand from progressive practitioner elements on the other hand who in experience would like to see things evolve and work out well for the TM movement. “And there's no such thing as an evolution of ideas and an evolution of society. ..He (Scalia) wouldn't buy that, ..He believed the same thing in interpretation of statutes (TM Movement admin policy, guidelines, and instruction), that the words (originalist) on the page are all that counts. That legislative history, that constitutional history, they don't count much if at all. What matters is the intent at the time. To put it most bluntly, "I mean what I say and not any more or any less." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Standing like Constitutional Original-ists, the faith-in-Maharishi religionist TM'ers inside TM at the top for decades have contended and winnowed things down fundamentally in their own minds that, “Fairfield is for those who have 'faith and belief' in Maharishi and everyone else should leave us alone”. That wish, that people without 'faith-and-belief' should leave, would have to be taken apart and looked at to see how it has actually gone down. A lot of meditators have come and left and some lot of meditators have stayed on for their own good reasons. Clearly the Dome group meditation numbers are really tiny. Donations to the University and undergraduate enrollment tight. Has Bevan gotten his wish? That those who do not have 'faith-and-belief in Maharishi', “..should leave and leave us alone”? “Be careful what you wish for in this world, for if you wish hard enough you are sure to get it. I once heard a very wise many say this, and the longer I live the more firmly I believe it to be true.” The Atlantic monthly, Volume 67. 1891. http://jamie.workingagenda.com/blog/2010/06/12/who-said-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : In zeal as 'Original-ists' having stood in way of progressive elements also in the TM movement community this is a lot like Scalia's camp has been on the Supreme Court in restraining and obstructing societal evolution. The difference evidently is that though there are a lot of opinions and feelings about how it should go for TM and many have their many firm 'Maharishi-saids', there evidently is not 'written' preamble, constitution guiding or bylaws governing TM that people easily share. Everyone seems to have their own lists of 'Maharishi-Saids' to stand on separately. “..And he continued to be its (Originalism's) foremost exponent. From being a sort of a fringe movement 30 or 40 years ago, it is now major league, perhaps the dominant philosophy — or was a dominant philosophy with his vote — on the Supreme court.” -This would be Bevan in the TM community? With Neil. Om, What is Originalism? 4 Questions With NPR's Nina Totenberg About Justice Antonin Scalia http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/13/466692618/4-questions-with-nprs-nina-totenberg-about-justice-antonin-scalia http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/13/466692618/4-questions-with-nprs-nina-totenberg-about-justice-antonin-scalia 4 Questions With NPR's Nina Totenberg About Justice ... http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/13/466692618/4-questions-with-nprs-nina-totenberg-about-justice-antonin-scalia NPR's legal affairs correspondent talks about about Scalia's life, legacy and what's next. View on www.npr.org http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/13/466692618/4-questions-with-nprs-nina-totenberg-about-justice-antonin-scalia Preview by Yahoo -JaiGuruYou