Truth and Consequences, The Sin of the Spin, Nice post, Upfronter. This is really well written critique as it speaks to the dangers we have in our collective story of our communal TM standard of ethics as a corporate spiritual group.
It comes at a good time for what are processes of internal cultural review that are going on inside TM right now. Thanks, makes a good link about the consequences of ethic as a leading economic indicator that is mighty pertinent right now. XO ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelfleba...@yahoo.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <upfronter@...> wrote : “Teacher briefly glances at initiation form to check the criteria for mantra selection (age and/or sex) and to preserve the illusion of personal mantra selection.” In other words, alter the truth that mantra selection is based solely on age and sex and create an illusion that it is something else, i.e. unique and created, perhaps by some special yogic power to personally suit the initiate. The mantra will work either way but why create this illusion and does it matter? Now personally I find this quite disturbing because Truth is absolute and veering away from Truth by embellishment, exaggeration, trickery or outright deception will not be without its natural consequences. Here could be a fracture in the overall Organization which is difficult to heal. I see Truth as being that which is radiated into ones surroundings from the spiritual being within, and so if that Truth is tainted in any way then the radiated spiritual vibrations will also fly those tainted colours, as it were, but if the Truth is pure then pure vibrations are radiated into the environment. The NSR people, for instance, tell it “as it is” and the technique works well without distortion of any truth. I mention this example because "the end result is justified by the means" without embellishment. It may be that in a culture where bartering has been the norm for millennia, it is expected to create an illusion about the commodity in question in the mind of the purchaser or the one receiving the service, in order that the highest subjective value is perceived. But when dealing with absolute Truth, as a Vedic master claims to do, then creating an illusion separate to the existence of the truth in question is questionable for some and nothing short of lying for others. It seems natural for many people that “the end justifies the means”, i.e. people learn to meditate so it doesn’t matter if they are tricked or lied to in order for this to come about. However, for me personally, I cannot accept this apparent truth. For many, it not only seemed natural for MMY to be justified in "tricking" his way into Guru Dev’s life, but, relishing the story as he told thousands of people of his little ruse, indicates to me that deception towards a justified end is even granted some kind of special status. The problem, I believe, is that when one accepts all this illusion-creation as not only natural but desirable in certain circumstances, then it is not a wise thing at all, because not only is Truth distorted from its own natural pure flow, but the creator of illusion cannot truly be believed in anything else he or she says because it must always be tested as to its content for exaggeration or justified deception – at least, this is true for those who perceive an injustice in creating an illusion from a specific truth. For instance, decades ago MMY would say that all a man has to do is meditate twice a day and "he will be right". Decades later, MMY is saying that unless a man lives in a building based on Vastu Architecture, then that man “will never be right, never be right, never be right”. So, to me personally, this is more of that ”illusion-creation” which is permitted to be used because “the end justifies the means” in the sense that people get to live in such buildings which “may” have some special effect but which is probably psychological, and also because another MMY project gains a foothold on this planet. While I do not doubt that some yogic powers have effects not able to be explained by science, demonstration of such powers only bolsters secondary offerings amongst those willingly accepting everything said from the mouth of a master who can conscientiously alter truth to create an untrue illusion (a lie) to achieve an end which is beneficial if not purely altruistic. So, again for instance, if MMY categorically states that Vedic Astrology cannot be challenged as to its authentic ability to interpret current and future events and likelihoods, then thousands of people will just accept this as unquestionable truth, and so such a such a planet passing through such a such a constellation proves that “something dangerous will happen” in such a such a country in the months of June and July. And lo and behold, a tremor occurs in said country in those months and this of course verifies Vedic Astrology because the power behind the suggestion turns the desire and mind towards specifics rather than generalisations – it becomes true. I thank MMY yogi and Guru Dev and all the disciplic line for the priceless gift of meditation, but the trappings that are bolstered through the powerful results of meditation stay in the illusory sphere for me personally, and my participation in events based on such trappings which are accepted as fact, such as Vedic Astrology will probably be negatively affected. Peace! I thought this was a very well thought out post and nicely written. Stick around, upfronter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sun...@yahoo.com> wrote : I'd say there's been a "black night of the soul" for many of us regarding M's teaching. In the best case, you reconcile it in some manner, and emerge on the other side keeping intact some parts, and letting some parts go by the wayside. Or, in some cases, people become embittered, and set upon trying to tear down the whole teaching. And, it also is a work in progress. You may find that as, or if, your experience grows, your perspective changes as well, and you become a little more flexible about what you felt, or feel is the "Truth". Speaking personally, I think the goal is scale-able, although it may take longer than expected and must be coupled with self reflection. And then, there's always the chance that as you get close, you may decide to bail out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <upfronter@...> wrote : “I don't recall that on my TTC ('72) that we were trained to be as deceptive as upfronter is suggesting.” I’m sorry if you thought I was suggesting that TM teachers were “trained to be as deceptive”. My point, in a nutshell, is that before this practice was ironed out (thank you authfriend) MMY thought it quite acceptable to “preserve the illusion” of something which was not true. I have no gripe against MMY, he has always had my love (and he is often in my inner vision). I did expect some defensive reaction as the issues I’ve mentioned are passionately in peoples’ hearts. I was simply stating why I personally would not be able to accept everything TMO as if there was no discussion. Peace.