NO, I get the point. You're just defending the indefensible.
From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness You seem determined to miss the point entirely. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : One doesn't need to take two weeks off to travel cross country to learn the latest information. If a teacher's knowledge wasn't sufficient to teach anymore, then it never was sufficient to teach in the first place. What kind of teachers did Maharishi create? The fact is , it was a money maker for the TMO and I'm assuming intended for signing a new contract, tightening controls on the teacher. Not one teacher came out of that program a better teacher but a better controlled teacher....maybe. From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness That's a ridiculous comment. I was just making the point that people need to keep up with developments in their field, and that is all that recertification is. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : One doesn't need a license to teach TM.So, you want the *state* to regulate the TM movement on how to operate? Bet Maharishi would have taken his knowledge and money and left in a heart beat. Hot under the collar? You can perceive it that way. I just say I washed my hands of their foolishness. I know a shake down when I see it. I don't need them anymore than they need me. From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness Many professions have a continuing ed. requirement which you have to fulfill iin order to keep your license to practice. I see nothing wrong at all in requiring recertification for teachers, so I'm puzzled about why you are so ho under the collar about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Doug, the TM movement keeps shooting it's self in the foot with it's policies. I guess the straw that broke the Camel's back for me was saying I couldn't initiate anyone again unless I came back to Fairfield at their convenience, paid them a couple of thousand dollars and get re certified. I took that as a shakedown for money because they were hurting due to their own failed policies. Screw them and the horse they road in on. *Chances* are, I probably would never have initiated anyone again as it was but who knows. I'll honor their desire for me not to teach but If anyone ever asks me about a meditation technique, I'll send them to AOL before the TMO. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness How could it have got so bad with thenumbers meditating in the Fairfield Dome meditations? That people can't or won't come back tothe recall? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : According to published records, by July1975 in the USA, just itself alone, had 5799 TM initiators. Now we can'tget much better than a very couple of hundred meditating in the men's Dometogether. After 1975 some more TM teachers and then TM governorswere trained up in years following. With 'citizens' added, something like 29000 peoplelearned the TM-sidhis in North America. Now the Dome program gets 200 plus men tothe Dome group meditation and some smallish number of women are over meditating in their location. People moved here to Fairfield to be a part of somethinglarge when the group meditation had two thousand or more attending. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : How could it have got to be so bad with thenumbers in the Fairfield Dome meditations? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : 'Collective meditation' was a majormajor tenet of Maharishi's all along, there quite evidently has beena failure of an administration of the meditation, a failure thataffected people's feelings about coming out for the communalcollective meditation. This is going to take a change in leadership culture to re-group the collapse of the Dome group TM meditation program. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : MMY: "This is what happens in the GoldenDomes,a wave of infinity spreads from one endof the Dome to the other end. But the wave is not constrained by thewalls. It permeates the whole collective conscious ~the whole fieldof unmanifest infinity. This is what you are here for. And as thegroup gets larger and larger, your experience will become moreprofound." -July 2006, MMY inaugurating the Invincible AmericaAssembly ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : The movement’s administrative guidelines for the group meditation should be such that all of the guidelines can be put on to a web page, publicly for anyone to read. If that can’t be done then there is something wrong with the guidelines or the persons holding them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : The guidelines for the Dome meditation could be much streamlined down to what it essentially takes to administrate a course. It is fair that there be guidelines for the running of any organization, meeting or course. But these go beyond practicality. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : The movement’s guidelines as they exist essentially are tools of retribution that for decades have driven a whole movement of meditators away. It will take some large leadership to change that. Their problem now is that this has gone on so long and the hurt enough that people have gone on, don’t care, and will not come back. It would take a large mediation to turn this around and have meditators come back to the Domes. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : A large barrier to world peace here is the administrative guidelines themselves that are employed to interrogate and discipline old TM teachers as a gatekeeping to the group meditation. There is a judgement and retributive edge in there, a vindictiveness held in the guidelines that is of a stiffness in the business of the minds of some people in charge of the movement that has long thwarted the group meditation. It is a cultural problem deep inside TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : At the level of the practitioner it can all feel too much like going in to an interview with a McCarthy committee or the old East German police as someone starts an application for a Dome meditation badge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : That is funny.Taping Rick's thesis to the doors? In these times it would be scotch tapinga thesis to the glass Dome doors or pinning themon the walls nearby the doors where people read announcements as they come and go in to the Domes. " ..the historicity of the hammer blows of Wittenberg. In fact, the door of the Castle Church did serve as the official university bulletin board and was regularly used for exactly the kind of announcement Luther made when he called for a public disputation on indulgences. But whether the event happened at two o'clock in the afternoon--or at all--is not the point. Copies of Luther's theses were soon distributed by humanist scholars all over Europe. Within just a few weeks, an obscure Augustinian monk in a backwater university town had become a household name and was the subject of chatter from Lisbon to Lithuania." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote : Someone could nail Rick's old message to the University door.:-) Reformation Day: Did Martin Luther really nail 95 theses on the castle door? | | | | | | Reformation Day: Did Martin Luther really nail 95 theses... Millions of Christians still celebrate Oct. 31 as the symbolic beginning of the Protestant Reformation. | | | View on www.al.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Are the three Drs. at the top of TM 15 years too late? 15 years ago as FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups was born as a sounding board for the larger meditating community it was said then: Rick Archer wrote then on Sept 14, 2001: I’ve love to see a public announcement like the following from the Department of the Development of Consciousness (the people who give out the badges): Dear Fairfield Sidhas and Governors, First, we would like to publicly apologize for ever having excluded from the domes anyone who wanted to practice Maharishi’s program there. We would like to welcome everyone back on the condition that if you are in the dome, you promise to practice what you have learned from Maharishi – no more, no less. In turn, we promise to never again judge or exclude anyone for what they may choose to do with their private life. We possess neither the wisdom nor the right to do this. Let us all come together again in a spirit of love and acceptance, and begin once more to radiate the harmony and coherence for which the domes were built. 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