Re "Hillary is Mrs Establishment or same ol' same ol'.": Pretty depressing option. A boring, time-serving insider with nothing to say that inspires me or sounds like it wasn't written by a PR advisor. The only plus would be a female President. Might as well get that milestone out the way if she's got nothing else to offer.
Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist. Is an American socialist basically like an English conservative or will he really be able to change things? (Change things for the better that is!) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote : Yep, he's rallied the younger demographic for *revolution* and as they were never really in the "fold" in the first place and don't really play the game of "party allegiance," if he doesn't win the nomination, he may need to start talking about the larger picture with respect to the election, if he feels sincerely like he says he does below and he wants his followers to vote for Hillary. From Yahoo News... "But the Vermont senator indicated he would support her if she becomes the Democratic nominee. “I think she and I would agree — and I hope that is her view — that we would do everything possible to prevent this country from seeing Donald Trump or some other Republican in the White House,” he said. “That would be a disaster for this country. And I will do everything I can to prevent that.”" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote : I've been listening to Thom Hartmann who seemed to convince Sanders to run in the first place. For years Thom would have Bernie on Fridays. I heard him try to talk Bernie into running. But is getting a lot of flack from his listeners who don't want to vote for Hillary if Bernie doesn't get the nomination. We've threatened to write in Bernie in that case. Hillary is Mrs Establishment or same ol' same ol'. Thom also tells listeners they should go to their local Democratic Party meeting and take them over. Oh boy, there are some places doing that might result in you not making it back home that evening. But Thom's a vegan and not living in the real world. On 04/11/2016 08:07 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Trump also pointed out that Sanders is also getting short changed on delegates. I don't care who the candidate is or party they are running in, this super delegate or back room party tricks need to stop. Otherwise we now have South American style politics in the US and you can kiss democracy goodbye. I have to agree with you in some ways. It really is not about the popular vote. There are so many ways in which things can become convoluted and changed and morphed into something that pleases the establishment. I have never followed US politics before (yes, really) and this is a real eye opener for me. It is only because I despise Trump so vehemently that I am following this at all. On 04/11/2016 08:32 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Trump's whining and whining about the "corrupt" delegate process. Well here is an interesting factoid: ""Donald Trump blasted the GOP's delegate rules Sunday, saying a 'corrupt' system is denying him delegates in states he won. According to a new NBC analysis, however, Trump has benefited far more than Ted Cruz under the party's arcane rules for allocating delegates. Trump now leads the Republican field with 756 delegates — or 45 percent of all delegates awarded to date. Yet he has won about 37 percent of all votes in the primaries, according to the NBC analysis, meaning Trump's delegate support is greater than his actual support from voters. For each percentage point of total primary votes that Trump has won, he has been awarded 1.22 percent of the total delegates. In other words, as a matter of Republican Party math, Trump has been awarded a delegate bonus of 22 percent above his raw support from voters. By contrast, Cruz has been awarded about 1.14 percent of the delegates for each percentage point of votes he has won — a delegate bonus of 14 percent above his raw support."