True, the spectrum of consciousness available through TM and TMSP is complete, 
spanning the transcendental states of consciousness, and bringing one to 
Brahman. None of these other programs cover such a range, though they can be 
helpful in offering a new, partial perspective on the journey. The kicker with 
the TMO is there is no one living in Brahman heading the organization, so that 
these other programs are seen in opposition, and as threats, instead of seeing 
them as a partial picture, with the complete definition of the growth of 
consciousness always available through the techniques, and associated 
documents, and media of the TM program and TMSP.  Without someone new at the 
top to put this into perspective, Maharishi's teachings are the only fallback, 
with the consequence of the TMO becoming less relevant and increasingly 
---In, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Fairfield has a lot of active long going satsanga groups.  The Oneness group 
has been on the ascendent in Fairfield for sometime in more recent years.  AOL 
is active still. Waking Down, the wavicle group, The meditator churches are 
vibrant too.  In a strict interpretation, these meetings should not be attended 
by TM teachers.  

---In, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Yes, it evidently was a spiritually attuned meeting of a lot of old TM 
teachers in Fairfield, Iowa.  The guy came to Fairfield through the Oneness 
group.  Apparently the mantras were very well sung with good effect.  Was yet 
another spiritually powerful meeting of Fairfield.  Lot of our old TM community 
here was there in the audience listening/meditating with it.  

---In, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 Good - whatever it takes. ;-)


---In, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 ...sounds like the "Krishna Das" aberration. A billion Indians, and everyone 
wants to listen to a guy from Long Island instead. Like when they used to make 
the cowboy westerns and all the Native American parts were played by white 
actors from LA and NYC. 
---In, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 The original post seems a good reminder about the vibratory nature of mantras. 

 There was a guy touring here to Fairfield tonight singing these mantras in a 
program downtown attended by quite a full crowd of TM teachers meditating along 
with the singing of these mantras.  The TM teachers, many of them being re-cert 
TM teachers or old TM teachers who are being paid to be on the IA grant in the 
Dome did not themselves seem ‘confused’ by such spiritual practice as the 
current Dome badge guidelines for being in the Dome meditation would assert.  
[I did not go to said concert but a reliable report thus tells me so.]   


---In, <yifuxero@...> wrote :

 The significance of Gayatri Mantra
 The significance of Gayatri Mantra Bangalore, India   Adi 
Shankaracharyaji, after having given all the knowledge he had to give he says 
one last thing, ‘O Shiva! You are me

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